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velivolus Jun 21, 2007 8:36 pm

departure from PVG
 
Will be departing from PVG this weekend after first trip to China.

What sort of things need to be gone through before getting on the plane? Is there anything I need to know or have on hand to present (aside from plane ticket and passport of course!)?

I am also wondering about changing any RMB I have remaining into American dollars. I have heard about people having problems with this?

And where do I need to go in the airport to change money?

I have been withdrawing my money from an HSBC ATM while I have been here. Will it be necessary to have my latest ATM receipt on hand?

Thanks for the info everyone!

moondog Jun 22, 2007 1:41 am

The departure procedure is painless enough to qualify as a non-issue (i.e. there's really nothing interesting to be said). As far as your money is concerned, you can change it at the airport as long as you can present receipts (ATM or otherwise) in an amount greater than or equal to the amount you wish to convert. But, if the odds of you (or anyone close to you) returning to China are significant, I wouldn't bother because in the medium and long term, continued RMB appreciation against the dollar is all but guaranteed (the Economist predicts a 7:1 exchange rate by the end of the year).

iancanton Jun 22, 2007 6:55 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 7940941)
But, if the odds of you (or anyone close to you) returning to China are significant, I wouldn't bother because in the medium and long term, continued RMB appreciation against the dollar is all but guaranteed (the Economist predicts a 7:1 exchange rate by the end of the year).

agreed, although it needs to be said that, if u keep ur rmb, but neither u nor anyone else u know is going to china in future, then most usa-based banks are unlikely to give anything as good as 8:1 (perhaps not even 9:1) when converting rmb to usd at the moment, even assuming that they're prepared to touch rmb in the first place.

do the rules about no liquids or gels in hand luggage apply, if they are in bottles of more than 100ml?

ian. :)

km3255 Jun 22, 2007 9:14 am

There's a currency change booth just to the left after you pass through security.


Originally Posted by iancanton (Post 7941575)

do the rules about no liquids or gels in hand luggage apply, if they are in bottles of more than 100ml?

Same TSA/EU liquids rules. US-bound passengers get the "privilege" of special immigration/security lines at PVG.

Loren Pechtel Jun 22, 2007 11:36 am

A total non-issue.

I haven't flown out of there since the liquid ban insanity so I can't comment on that but otherwise it's a triviality.

There used to be an airport tax but they finally got that into the tickets instead so you don't pay it on departure anymore.

The only thing one bit odd is there is a customs x-ray on the way out. More than once I've seen the screen unmonitored.

I've never had the slightest problem there, the only time I've even seen anyone having trouble it was a Russian who was having language problems and asked me for help in very broken English. He couldn't figure out the box on the departure paperwork asking for flight number. (The paperwork is Chinese/English, it doesn't have any Russian. Fortunately he did understand the word "ticket" and from that point I could communicate by pointing.)

rploehn Jun 22, 2007 1:53 pm

After flight check-in, there are special security lines to the far right, facing the gates, for US-bound passengers only. It is very well marked along the way. From AA and UA is it a hike, use a cart for carry-ons and allow another 10 minutes maybe. Then, if you are on NW, you walk all the way back and then some. Figure you are getting all the aerobic you need today and tomorrow. There are carts on either side of security, just look for them.

The prices, by airport standards, are way high in the refreshment areas, and the airport lounges are nothing special, if you qualify. So fill up in Shanghai and bring along some cookies, nuts or whatever. The shops are not bad to burn yuan if you still need some gifts. Yes, overpriced by Chinese standards, but still within budget US-wise.

mosburger Jun 23, 2007 9:10 am


Originally Posted by rploehn (Post 7943691)
After flight check-in, there are special security lines to the far right, facing the gates, for US-bound passengers only. It is very well marked along the way. From AA and UA is it a hike, use a cart for carry-ons and allow another 10 minutes maybe. Then, if you are on NW, you walk all the way back and then some. Figure you are getting all the aerobic you need today and tomorrow. There are carts on either side of security, just look for them.

The prices, by airport standards, are way high in the refreshment areas, and the airport lounges are nothing special, if you qualify. So fill up in Shanghai and bring along some cookies, nuts or whatever. The shops are not bad to burn yuan if you still need some gifts. Yes, overpriced by Chinese standards, but still within budget US-wise.

I'm regularly bringing Chinese anti-aging cream for my widely travelled and discriminating mom. About 70 yuan per packet but only available in one of the tax free shops.

For breakfast, noodles, sticky dumplings and Cantonese dim sum are overpriced but passable at the generic landside restaurants on 2F. "Western" breakfast is a joke and best avoided. Good tea but so-so coffee.

I've used some of the lounges and early morning seems best foodwise. Especially enjoyed salmon and cream cheese sandwiches, OJ and a Cappucino for brekkie at the China Eastern lounge recently.

biggestbopper Jun 23, 2007 3:01 pm

I found the 50RMB fee for changing money at the departure rather steep, given that I only had about 150RMB. :td: It looked even worse when I got to Tokyo and found I could change RMB into yen without a fee and at a good rate.

woodway Jun 24, 2007 12:03 am

They are going to search your luggage for liquids as you board your flight.

Unlike Tokyo where the search is prefunctory, in China they will actually unzip, open and look through your bags. They will confiscate all liquids bigger than 100ml, including un-opened water or other drinks that you buy on the airside of security!

I flew out of PEK yesterday, and by the time I got my bags searched, there was a small pile of soft drinks and water bottles behind the guys doing the searching!

mosburger Jun 24, 2007 12:13 am


Originally Posted by woodway (Post 7949138)
They are going to search your luggage for liquids as you board your flight.

Unlike Tokyo where the search is prefunctory, in China they will actually unzip, open and look through your bags. They will confiscate all liquids bigger than 100ml, including un-opened water or other drinks that you buy on the airside of security!

I flew out of PEK yesterday, and by the time I got my bags searched, there was a small pile of soft drinks and water bottles behind the guys doing the searching!

I think this is only done on flights bound for the US (and maybe the United Kingdom) so if travelling to other destinations no need to partake in this circus.

moondog Jun 24, 2007 12:45 am


Originally Posted by woodway (Post 7949138)
I flew out of PEK yesterday, and by the time I got my bags searched, there was a small pile of soft drinks and water bottles behind the guys doing the searching!

I've had mixed results; made it through with a bottle of Gatorade last week (but have been snubbed in the past). On a related note, I love the zip-locks they hand out at PEK.

anacapamalibu Jun 24, 2007 8:55 pm

[QUOTE=woodway;7949138]They are going to search your luggage for liquids as you board your flight.

QUOTE]

Stick a couple of Tsingtao's in your pockets..for a preflight cocktail. Zai jian..China!

JDiver May 30, 2009 8:51 pm

At several airports I have been though in the last three weeks - and we'll see how PVG today goes - they are also looking for flammable liquids and confiscating t hem. One person had a small aerosol taken, and I have seen folks have to give up their hand sanitizers (e.g. Purell,) regardless if they were under 100 ml.

Loren Pechtel May 30, 2009 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 11830844)
At several airports I have been though in the last three weeks - and we'll see how PVG today goes - they are also looking for flammable liquids and confiscating t hem. One person had a small aerosol taken, and I have seen folks have to give up their hand sanitizers (e.g. Purell,) regardless if they were under 100 ml.

China has been after flammables for a long time. It makes a lot more sense than our war on liquids.

JDiver May 31, 2009 12:44 am

(Trying again after being bounced by CyberPatrol.)

You are absolutely right, Loren.

Departing Terminal 2 at PVG today, my netbook had to come out of its sleeve in security.

At the AA checkin counter, the x-ray machines (they may not be manned, but they are being monitored remotely) detected my wife's foldable cane and I was required to retrieve and open the bag for additional inspection in the Baggage Check room. I was asked if the handle was a dagger handle. (No.)

Ohter than that, it was all pretty straightforward - one entry for those to Hong Kong and other International, another for other destinations, including Taiwan (I did not spend much time reading - merely went to my queue.) Inside, there are paths for those with things to delcare and those without.

Immigration was smooth - though some forgot or lost their departure forms and were required tofill out new forms. Security was as described above - efficient, no snarkiness, no problems for most. My wife's "Kip" bag was looked at cursorily (no flammables.)

I'm posting frome the KA / CX Lounge (used now for all oneworld airlines,) and I like Terminal 2 - a good move.

Loren Pechtel May 31, 2009 9:43 am


Originally Posted by JDiver (Post 11831363)
(Trying again after being bounced by CyberPatrol.)

You are absolutely right, Loren.

Departing Terminal 2 at PVG today, my netbook had to come out of its sleeve in security.

At the AA checkin counter, the x-ray machines (they may not be manned, but they are being monitored remotely) detected my wife's foldable cane and I was required to retrieve and open the bag for additional inspection in the Baggage Check room. I was asked if the handle was a dagger handle. (No.)

Yeah, we've had to open bags and show them that the stuff on the image that is confusing them is harmless. Unlike the TSA insanity, if there's a problem you go show them what they are seeing.

Jebby_ca Jun 1, 2009 8:56 pm

Don't lose your boarding pass at PVG though... they call immigration over if you do!

LHR/MEL/Europe FF Jun 1, 2009 10:16 pm

Hi all

Am just concerned about the flamables rule. I always carry a small can of hairspray wiith me (less than 100ml). Am I going to have problems with this either into or out of China in future (in checked and/or unchecked luggage)?

I will be transiting Seoul, as late as a couple fo days ago they were fine with the spray then. So is it just ex China?

Any advice appreciated (although i leave for the airport for my next flight in about 45 mins :) )

Regards

lme ff

rdchen Jun 2, 2009 11:19 am


Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 11841408)
Hi all

Am just concerned about the flamables rule. I always carry a small can of hairspray wiith me (less than 100ml). Am I going to have problems with this either into or out of China in future (in checked and/or unchecked luggage)?

I will be transiting Seoul, as late as a couple fo days ago they were fine with the spray then. So is it just ex China?

Any advice appreciated (although i leave for the airport for my next flight in about 45 mins :) )

Regards

lme ff

Most likely you'll have problem if you leave the can in the carry-on. One time I put the aerosol can in the checked luggage & the x-ray machine picked it up, I had to unlock the suit case to let the security personnel inspect the contents.

Brudda Jun 12, 2009 5:14 pm

I fly out of PVG at 6 pm. Is two hours enough time for check in? I'm coming back to USA.

Loren Pechtel Jun 12, 2009 9:53 pm


Originally Posted by Brudda (Post 11899647)
I fly out of PVG at 6 pm. Is two hours enough time for check in? I'm coming back to USA.

I once made it out arriving at the airport 64 minutes before flight time. Had the plane boarded on time we would have been boarding for some minutes before we got to the gate but we would have been ok.

I wouldn't recommend cutting it that close, though!

House Jun 14, 2009 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by Brudda (Post 11899647)
I fly out of PVG at 6 pm. Is two hours enough time for check in? I'm coming back to USA.

Plenty of time. Even 90 minutes is OK. I would allow 2 hours though, not because of delays at the airport, but because you will be travelling at the start of rush hour. You need to allow an hour for the drive out to the airport, or the Metro/Maglev combination, from the centre of town.

Brudda Jun 15, 2009 8:38 am

Does the super train go to this airport? It would be nice to get a chance to kill two birds with one trip. lol

InTheShed Jun 16, 2009 4:46 pm


Originally Posted by Brudda (Post 11909821)
Does the super train go to this airport? It would be nice to get a chance to kill two birds with one trip. lol

Maglev? It does. Subway line #2, at Longyang Road station, follow the Maglev sign. It's a 11-minute or so ride from downtown into the airport for RMB40.

moondog Jun 16, 2009 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by InTheShed (Post 11918888)
Maglev? It does. Subway line #2, at Longyang Road station, follow the Maglev sign. It's a 11-minute or so ride from downtown into the airport for RMB40.

It's more like 50 minutes IME (when you factor in the subway ride, the transfer, and average wait time for the Maglev).

Brudda Jul 12, 2009 8:02 am

At PVG, I forgot our OFF spray-can was in our bag and it was taken away.
I had to use my inhaler, in front of them, to show that it was medication for asthma. :confused:

alc16 Jul 14, 2009 8:48 am


Originally Posted by House (Post 11907668)
Plenty of time. Even 90 minutes is OK. I would allow 2 hours though, not because of delays at the airport, but because you will be travelling at the start of rush hour.

I got away with 35mins before a flight to Tokyo....they were actually closing up the check-in when I arrived and once they checked me in, they escorted me all the way through Passport control, Security and to the gate. 10mins was all it took and no queues!! ;)

Brudda Jul 14, 2009 3:55 pm

All the rush and hurrying for naught. MU was 90 minutes late, at PVG. Coming from JFK, we were 3 hours late. I won't use China Eastern again. :mad:


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