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rkkwan Apr 5, 2007 11:16 am

The Canton Fair is a big deal, and prices of hotel go much higher than non-fair times, not just in Guangzhou but even as far as Hong Kong.

mosburger Apr 5, 2007 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 7531660)
I think you mean HepA; HepB is generally only transmitted through close physical contact. I've given up on oysters entirely; learned my lesson after 6 bad experiences.... 24 hour delay, then 24 hours during which you'll wish you were dead.

Oops, good note.

I've only gone down once so far, albeit in Qinqdao. :D The Chinese immune system doesn't seem fully resistant either as my colleague shared the same fate on that trip.

But the customers wanted to drink and dine with us the same evening so a lenghty nap was all I got.

explore786 Apr 5, 2007 10:53 pm


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 7535727)
Oops, good note.

I've only gone down once so far, albeit in Qinqdao. :D The Chinese immune system doesn't seem fully resistant either as my colleague shared the same fate on that trip.

But the customers wanted to drink and dine with us the same evening so a lenghty nap was all I got.

Woud the shot be effective if I get it couple of days before the trip. And I dont plan on eating oysters at all. Maybe some fish and shrimp.

moondog Apr 5, 2007 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by explore786 (Post 7536052)
Woud the shot be effective if I get it couple of days before the trip. And I dont plan on eating oysters at all. Maybe some fish and shrimp.

The shot is meaningless with respect to my personal allergy. I think the ability to ward off the types of bacteria that are common in rawshellfish varies from person to person. In my case, the threshold is low and is dropping further as I get older. So, while it's likely that I'd be fine at Legal Seafoods or McKormick & Shmick's, I don't roll the dice at all.

However, I'm fine with all types of cooked seafood, including shellfish and non-shellfish sushi. That said, I don't do the all-you-eat sushi places in SH too much any more, not due so much to health concerns, but because the quality (particularly the uni; yuck!) isn't all that stellar.

slickalick Apr 6, 2007 12:10 am


Originally Posted by explore786 (Post 7532351)
Thanks for the comments.

Regarding phone issue, I have a few contacts in China that speak English, worst case scenario.. when I'm travelling by myself, I'll call one of them and have them talk to the cabblie or shop owner etc etc.


Regarding Canton, It would be first trip there so It would a good exposure if nothing else. I have some good plans for Qingdao area but nothing concrete to target anyone at Canton Fair.

That said, I went on to ctrip, as someone suggested and I can see some 3+ star hotels between RMB 500 to RMB 800 which looks okay. Except some of them dont even have internet access and I dont know how far these are from the Canton Fair. For air travel, lowest I can find is RMB 1250 one way to Quangdon and another 1250 RMB for return.

The ones i saw on CTRIP for 500-800 are near the New Airport, or in other obscure places. Don't bother with these places - paying an extra RMB200-300 more is worth your sanity - especially if this is your first CECF 'experience'...

anacapamalibu Apr 6, 2007 10:09 am


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 7532490)
The Canton Fair is a big deal, and prices of hotel go much higher than non-fair times, not just in Guangzhou but even as far as Hong Kong.

Hong Kong convention center and the new HK Airport convention center
run trade shows at same time as Canton Fair , so the whole HK GZ is
jacked up on hotel prices.

explore786 Apr 6, 2007 7:53 pm

Someone suggested that I should stay in Shenzhen which is 1 hour train ride from Guangzhou. Hotel rates around RMB 350.

But this seems like a bigger hassle.

moondog Apr 6, 2007 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by explore786 (Post 7540706)
Someone suggested that I should stay in Shenzhen which is 1 hour train ride from Guangzhou. Hotel rates around RMB 350.

But this seems like a bigger hassle.

Yes

anacapamalibu Apr 6, 2007 9:40 pm

Dongguan - Beverly Hills
 

Originally Posted by explore786 (Post 7540706)
Someone suggested that I should stay in Shenzhen which is 1 hour train ride from Guangzhou. Hotel rates around RMB 350.

But this seems like a bigger hassle.

I have had many Taiwanese tell me that Dongguan is like the Beverly Hills of China. I don't know what to make of this. But maybe research Dongguan instead of Shenzhen, they are not far apart. Is there a large Persian population in Dongguan now as Beverly Hills is including Farsi in the election ballot?

slickalick Apr 7, 2007 5:27 am


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 7541285)
I have had many Taiwanese tell me that Dongguan is like the Beverly Hills of China. I don't know what to make of this. But maybe research Dongguan instead of Shenzhen, they are not far apart. Is there a large Persian population in Dongguan now as Beverly Hills is including Farsi in the election ballot?

Hmm...not quite the Beverly Hills of China..but i can understand where they are coming from. Some very nice resorts and properties in some places.

Are your Taiwanese friends in the furniture business by any chance?

There are Arab/Indian sub-continent business people all over S.C. - I'm not sure what you mean by the election ballot though....

Anyways, even for the fair, Dongguan is still a pain in the a$$. I would stay as close to the fair as possible, get in bang at 9am and leave at 6pm sharp...better to spend two complete days there (i.e. one night in an expensive hotel) rather than several days of commuting back and forth from a cheap but obscure hotel in the middle of Dongguan.

Remember...time is money!

anacapamalibu Apr 7, 2007 11:14 am


Originally Posted by slickalick (Post 7542366)
Hmm...not quite the Beverly Hills of China..but i can understand where they are coming from. Some very nice resorts and properties in some places.

Are your Taiwanese friends in the furniture business by any chance?

There are Arab/Indian sub-continent business people all over S.C. - I'm not sure what you mean by the election ballot though....

Anyways, even for the fair, Dongguan is still a pain in the a$$. I would stay as close to the fair as possible, get in bang at 9am and leave at 6pm sharp...better to spend two complete days there (i.e. one night in an expensive hotel) rather than several days of commuting back and forth from a cheap but obscure hotel in the middle of Dongguan.

Remember...time is money!

Are your Taiwanese friends in the furniture business by any chance?
Not Furniture business, factories for producing general merchandise.

I'm not sure what you mean by the election ballot though....
Large population of Iranians now in Beverly Hills, so the election ballot has
Farsi as well as English.

would stay as close to the fair as possible, get in bang at 9am and leave at 6pm sharp...better to spend two complete days there (i.e. one night in an expensive hotel)

That sounds like the best idea. Maybe the new Shangrila in Guangzhou...its probably upward of $350 a night during fair time.

moondog Apr 7, 2007 11:18 am


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 7543847)
That sounds like the best idea. Maybe the new Shangrila in Guangzhou...its probably upward of $350 a night during fair time.

We used to stay in a serviced apartment there that was big, nice, convenient, and less than $100 per night during fair time. The name escapes me, but I could dig it up if anyone expresses interest.

explore786 Apr 7, 2007 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 7543862)
We used to stay in a serviced apartment there that was big, nice, convenient, and less than $100 per night during fair time. The name escapes me, but I could dig it up if anyone expresses interest.



Yes I would appreciate that along with their phone #

explore786 Apr 7, 2007 9:36 pm

Found a 4.5 star 25 minutes from fair with free hotel shuttle service to the canton fair. RMB 625. Not bad under the circumstances.

anacapamalibu Apr 7, 2007 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by explore786 (Post 7545954)
Found a 4.5 star 25 minutes from fair with free hotel shuttle service to the canton fair. RMB 625. Not bad under the circumstances.

625 RMB is a good price. Everytime I have gone to the fair I have ended up staying in a total dump. Last October session I paid 1500 RMB for a room that looked like skid row. Haven't been able to find anything decent and don't want to pay over $300 per night. Guangzhou, not my favorite destination in China. Will skip Canton fair from now on and just go to the HK shows.


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