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Originally Posted by tentseller
(Post 27580798)
Legally it is fine.
However it is a YMMV with different airlines. Just because it is a Chinese airline it doesn't mean their contracted check-in agents will know this is legally acceptable. |
Thank you everyone for the info in this thread! Just got our passports back with 10 year/60 day/multiple entry L visas today.
I used the FreeChinaVisa.org visa service mentioned upthread due to the price, submitted to the San Francisco consulate. A little hesitation over the name, but since I didn't see any negative posts here, went ahead with them. Everything went smoothly! - Purchased trip on Delta.com to PEK (cheapest available on US carrier; probably doesn't matter but figured that would be easiest for cancellation) and booked hotel with both mine and my wife's name on the reservation. After printing out receipts/itinerary, canceled trip and pending charges dropped off the card within a couple of days. - For the family block just put each other and no other relatives. - Requested multiple entries valid for 10 years in the other field. - Filled in the itinerary box with just the hotel/address for the entire 7 day period of the trip. - Sent two 48mm x 33mm photos each per the photo requirements on the Chinese embassy website but noticed the visa service says 2"x2". Turned out not to be an issue and the second photo was returned with the passport. Mailed 11/28, received by visa service 11/30, passports returned 12/5, received back 12/7. ^ |
Originally Posted by Edgerfly
(Post 27580676)
So I carry my old passport with the visa inside, and my new passport together and show that to Chinese customs officials? The airline will be familiar with this and know about this? It's Hainan FWIW...
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This is even covered on the Chinese embassy's website.
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/visas/faq/ |
I don't really think the sky is going to fall. Nonetheless, I'm a cautious sort who's seen China strike out from time to time, suddenly and without warning, often using visa policy as a weapon.
So out of that caution, I'd strongly suggest that any American with even the most tentative plans to visit China in the next few years line up and get a ten-year multiple-entry visa now. Or at least before January 20. |
Originally Posted by 889
(Post 27652977)
I don't really think the sky is going to fall. Nonetheless, I'm a cautious sort who's seen China strike out from time to time, suddenly and without warning, often using visa policy as a weapon.
So out of that caution, I'd strongly suggest that any American with even the most tentative plans to visit China in the next few years line up and get a ten-year multiple-entry visa now. Or at least before January 20. |
Yes, so long as the name and nationality are the same.
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Originally Posted by Edgerfly
(Post 27652981)
I have one but in my old passport. This is okay right if I have both passports, right?
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I'm transiting PVG as a US citizen with a 10 year L visa, with two travel companions who will be TWOV. I've heard conflicting reports of how I should handle arrival at PVG -- do I process with them, or should I proceed as a visa holder? Also, what are the odds that we confuse the AA agents on our way out? I've got a TIMATIC printout for each of us :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Kreative03
(Post 27669946)
I'm transiting PVG as a US citizen with a 10 year L visa, with two travel companions who will be TWOV. I've heard conflicting reports of how I should handle arrival at PVG -- do I process with them, or should I proceed as a visa holder? Also, what are the odds that we confuse the AA agents on our way out? I've got a TIMATIC printout for each of us :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 25563262)
My understanding is that there are actually two options that fall under the Hainan special deal category, so that may be why you are getting different stories. I don't keep up with the absolute latest on Hainan, but I believe the following is correct:
Option 1: Free Visa (or Visa Free, if you will): --must be in a group of 5 people or more, available to holders of passports from 27 countries (including Netherlands) --must be arranged with a Hainan agency in advance (at least the passport details of the arriving travelers must be provided >7 days before arriving) --must arrive and depart Hainan on international flights, either Haikou or Sanya airports or combination thereof * --stay maximum of 15 days (Germans, Russians, Koreans traveling 2+ people I think get 21 days) --no charge Option 2: Landing Visa: --"group" can be less than 5 people, available to holders of passports from 27 countries as above --must arrive Hainan (Haikou or Sanya) on international flight, but can depart from anywhere else in China --stay maximum of 15 days (including Hainan and elsewhere in China) --upon arrival, make application for "Landing Visa" and must provide photocopy of entry and exit air tickets, hotel bookings, passport photo --processing will take 15-30 minutes, cost depends on passport country but my info is that it's pretty much what a standard visa would cost you. --note that as with any visa application, there is always a chance that a Landing Visa will be denied if you look like an undesirable (or your country has seriously angered the Chinese). * International flights into Hainan are limited. Normally there are dailies into Sanya and Haikou from Hong Kong, and also (may be seasonal) service from Taipei, Bangkok, and Singapore. If you fly to Hainan through another mainland airport, the deal's off and you need a regular Chinese visa to pass through Entry Immigration at the first mainland airport. Where could I find the list with the 27 countries? Is Belgium also part? Thanks in advance! |
Originally Posted by Kreative03
(Post 27669946)
I'm transiting PVG as a US citizen with a 10 year L visa, with two travel companions who will be TWOV. I've heard conflicting reports of how I should handle arrival at PVG -- do I process with them, or should I proceed as a visa holder? Also, what are the odds that we confuse the AA agents on our way out? I've got a TIMATIC printout for each of us :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by edoleb
(Post 27671237)
Where could I find the list with the 27 countries?
Is Belgium also part? Thanks in advance! Sorry I don't have any handy links but suggest that you look for Hainan travel agents that have updated websites in 2016, email them for info if necessary. |
Mileage run on F visa
I have a question for the experts on the entry conditions on Chinese visas. I have a multiple entry F visa valid until May (I got it for two conferences last year). I am planning a complex mileage run / quick sightseeing trip through China. I would have separate tickets going in to China and coming out, so want to leave some time as a safety buffer (~48hrs), and also to do some quick sightseeing. The only problem is that the first ticket has a domestic segment in China, so I can't do TWOV (unless I do 24 hrs, but that's too tight).
My question is: are there official entry requirements when you use an F visa? Would they have a problem if you use it the way I propose above? One extra complication: I would want to do the same thing twice (round trip tickets). |
Just enter using your visa, and check the "conference" box on the entry form. I highly doubt that the person who admits you will ask you about the specific conference, but I would find one on Google just to be safe.
Some might argue that the above is dishonest, and that checking the "tourism" box is also fine. While I agree, I still think the white lie approach is the best course of action (I.e. path of least resistance, and it's not like you need to be a conference speaker in order to enter on F). If you're feeling guilty, you could always attend a meaningless trade show during your trip. |
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