In addition to being told this by several travel agents, I saw a few posts. Here are some of them:

http://www.chinese-forums.com/index....for-americans/

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Posted 13 November 2014 - 08:45 PM
...There's a disturbing report over on Flyertalk about a traveller who was just denied a ten-year visa at the D.C. embassy because she had never visited Mainland China before; she was told she would get a ten-year visa only after she had been to the Mainland at least once. Of course there's nothing in the publicity about the ten-year visa that supports this sort of restriction. In any event, if you've got a new passport, be sure to take your old one with entry/exit stamps along.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:48 PM
...Note that with a 10-year visa, your Period of Stay becomes critical. You don't want to be stuck with a 30-day limit for 10 years. Yet in the past, some consulates have been inconsistent and capricious in setting the length of stay.

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Re: New 10-Year China Visas Not Easier to Get, Just Longer
Posted Apr 1, 2015 12:38am by Anonymous
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I got one. Only valid for only 30 days at a time.

I bought a return ticket lasting 60 days and provided an itinerary for 60 days and wrote "60 Days" on the application.

Still, they only gave me 30 days at a time (valid for 10 years).

I applied in the Chinese embassy in Phnom Penh, Cambodia.

The guy was a jerk and did not answer any questions or talk to me.

I had to change my plans and pay extra for another flight.

Very frustrating.

Anyone know this?

Where did you see there was a limit of the number of invitees? Give us a link to evaluate.

:rolleyes: Where did I say I saw a limit somewhere? Then I wouldn't asked here.
For german citizen who invite foreigners to Europe there is actually a limit which depend on their salary. So I asked if there is something simular in china.

1. I understand your concern, but your assumption that Germany limits invitations, so China might do the same is ludicrous
2. If you are able to cite an actual law that states this restriction, I will give you 600 cny

As fsr as I know, there is no limit as to the number of invitation.

There´s no limit for chinese citizens to invite europeans.

Well if you would know more about the long time "visa fight" between the EU and China you wouldn´t call his question ludicrous.

Ludicrous is what happen between the EU and China.

Instead as acting like adults and making agreements like the US and China, both parts are acting like children.

Germany opened some external visa center in China as our embassy/consulates were overworked (so Chinese citizens had to pay some extra fee for this centers), China doubled the visa costs (from 30 to 60 €) plus the fees for the visa application centers in Germany.
So finally we have to pay 125€ for a simple L Visa (plus 35€ for shipping if you need that).

For a few months Chinese citizens have to give their fingerprints if they apply for a Schengenvisa.
Now China is thinking of to do this for EU citizen too (but it´s not official yet).

This long time "fight" between both is just ludicrous.

Why is it a fight? There's a long-established principle that visa fees are based on reciprocity, though not all countries follow it all the time. So if Germany starts to charge Chinese applicants Euro 60 for a visa plus service center fee, China will of course start to charge German applicants the same.

Agree that visa fees are out of line and that the use of service centers just adds to the expense and the difficulties applicants face by insulating them from the consular officials who actually make the decisions (and can bend the rules). But this has more to do with foreign ministries attempting to increase their funding while decreasing their workload than with "fights" between countries.

Hello, need some clarification on this.

Will this permit entry to the mainland?
~Born in HK, moved to the US now carries and has carried an US Passport 20+ yrs.
~Still holds the green HK entry card and Mainland travel permit for HK/Macau Residents.
~No Chinese Passport.

Flying from the US to Beijing to Shenzhen. They can just enter Shenzhen with the Mainland travel permit for Hong Kong and Macao residents right?
^Link to the card I'm talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainla...acao_Residents

Thanks!

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Call it fight, game or whatever you want. ;)

But it´s a long time thing and both citizens (chinese and germans) have to suffer it (especially the chinese ones).

To get a Schengenvisa for a chinese citizen is very difficult and the chinese government is just trying to get more easings of restrictions.

But instead to speak to each other there are just more restrictions from each side.

btw. it´s the chinese visa that got increased to 60€ for germans and all other Schengencountries.:p

* The Mainland Travel Permit (not expired) is all you need to enter China.
* You're entering at PEK, not Shenzhen.
* Old version has no English markings at all (except name and OCR code). New version has them, making clear it is a Mainland Travel Permit. Either way, you may encounter difficulties checking-in at Smalltown USA airports. Be ready to spend time providing agents a guided research. Printed Timatic and Wikipedia article will help. Or insist to be allowed to proceed to a US gateway airport where they'll be multilingual staff.

Perfect! They should be good than. As long as the red card will get them in and out I'm not concerned getting back to the US since they have US passports.

China never dependent visa requirement for foreigners from what other countries require from chinese citizen, thats totally ludicrous :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Thank you JPDM and qpr.

The concept you are referring to is "reciprocity", but I have no reason to believe that it applies in the instant case. Show us otherwise, and then we can discuss.