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moondog Nov 22, 2024 7:04 pm

Your printout, if requested, *is* the "original", but digital chops aren't always accepted.

10 years is the default validity period for most visas issued to US citizens, due to reciprocity (a concept that China takes quite seriously on the whole).

eng3 Nov 22, 2024 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36690662)
Your printout, if requested, *is* the "original", but digital chops aren't always accepted.

10 years is the default validity period for most visas issued to US citizens, due to reciprocity (a concept that China takes quite seriously on the whole).

Then why is Q (or M) considered "better" than L?

moondog Nov 22, 2024 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 36690720)
Then why is Q (or M) considered "better" than L?

More days per stay is probably the most obvious advantage. But, things like drivers liceneses, echannel, bank accounts, lease agreements, and RP conversion can be challenging, if not impossible, on L visas.

narvik Nov 22, 2024 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36690745)
More days per stay is probably the most obvious advantage. But, things like drivers liceneses, echannel, bank accounts, lease agreements, and RP conversion can be challenging, if not impossible, on L visas.

Plus M vs. L; you can do business and tourism on M but only tourism on L.

eng3 Nov 23, 2024 7:04 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36690745)
More days per stay is probably the most obvious advantage. But, things like drivers liceneses, echannel, bank accounts, lease agreements, and RP conversion can be challenging, if not impossible, on L visas.


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 36690768)
Plus M vs. L; you can do business and tourism on M but only tourism on L.

Thanks. My parents and I would only do family visit/tourism. We wouldnt be doing any business, driving, lease, banking, etc.

YariGuy Nov 23, 2024 7:45 am

There's also a difference between Q1 and Q2. Q1 allows you to stay longer, and (I believe) is easier to convert to a residence permit.

Q1 I think is up to 180 days per stay, so very flexible.

tauphi Nov 24, 2024 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by YariGuy (Post 36691482)
There's also a difference between Q1 and Q2. Q1 allows you to stay longer, and (I believe) is easier to convert to a residence permit.

Q1 I think is up to 180 days per stay, so very flexible.

Q1 is 30 days only just like a Z visa. You must convert it to an RP within that period.

Q2 on the other hand has a maximum stay limit of 180 days (not always given though, especially on multiple-entry Q2 visas).

eng3 Dec 2, 2024 9:41 am

My mom has a 10yr Q2 visa. The "Enter Before" date is 4/1/2025. She wants to visit in December 2024
She tells me that it isnt valid 6mo prior so she needs to do a visa renewal now. I can find no reference to this anywhere. Infact, I found something saying you need to wait til 6mo validity left to renew.
Can anyone confirm if she's good with what she has now?

moondog Dec 2, 2024 11:11 am


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 36710254)
My mom has a 10yr Q2 visa. The "Enter Before" date is 4/1/2025. She wants to visit in December 2024
She tells me that it isnt valid 6mo prior so she needs to do a visa renewal now. I can find no reference to this anywhere. Infact, I found something saying you need to wait til 6mo validity left to renew.
Can anyone confirm if she's good with what she has now?

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eng3 Dec 2, 2024 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 36710459)

Shouldn't the bottom part be underlined? With a visa (which she has), passports and other documents must be valid on arrival. The visa doesnt state an expiration date, just "enter before" I take that to mean it's valid to use it as long entry is before that date and the duration is shorter than the duration listed on the visa.

moondog Dec 2, 2024 7:28 pm

If the "enter before" date is greater than the arrival date, the visa is valid on arrival.

889 Dec 3, 2024 4:31 am

Actually, you can enter up till midnight on the "Enter Before" date and I have done this.

From the State Council:

"A visa expires if . . . The visa has passed 24:00 (Beijing Time) on the date of entry, namely the 'Enter Before' date given on the visa page." That is, it means enter before midnight on that date.

https://english.www.gov.cn/services/...1c263732e.html

eng3 Dec 3, 2024 6:53 am

Ok thanks. I didn't know where my mom heard this 6mo prior things from. She says several people in China and the US told her this (no one official). They are probably conflating the passport validity with visa

moondog Dec 3, 2024 10:57 am


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 36711961)
Actually, you can enter up till midnight on the "Enter Before" date and I have done this.

I also entered on my enter before date once, and the sky didn't fall, but since there's often apprehension in these threads about airlines refusing passage, I usually try to stick with more conservative readings of timatic.
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EBGflyer Dec 20, 2024 5:29 am

I'm considering a business trip to Shanghai for 5 days in February. With my passport I can enter China visa free for up to 30 days.

Is there any advantage having a visa instead of visa free entry having the queue at immigration in mind? Is it a different line you use when having a visa? I heard the lines can be brutally long.

Thanks in advance for your input.


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