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Hello all,
Does anyone know if E-Channel means you can use an electronic boarding pass when departing? Most airlines refuse to issue them when departing China -- and before I had E-Channel I was turned back by the guards at PVG the one time I got one, presumably as the foreigners line stamps the BP -- but for those airlines that will issue a mobile BP, is it possible to use it with E-channel and skip check-in entirely? Thanks for any advice! I will be exiting at PEK if that has any bearing. |
I don't know the answer, but in cases stamped BPs are required at the airport, airline, or local PSB level, your plan could be problematic. And, I've always assumed that collected boarding passes get filed and retained somewhere.
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Originally Posted by wk989
(Post 36121599)
Hello all,
Does anyone know if E-Channel means you can use an electronic boarding pass when departing? Most airlines refuse to issue them when departing China -- and before I had E-Channel I was turned back by the guards at PVG the one time I got one, presumably as the foreigners line stamps the BP -- but for those airlines that will issue a mobile BP, is it possible to use it with E-channel and skip check-in entirely? Thanks for any advice! I will be exiting at PEK if that has any bearing. I am actually surprised that any airlines would issue an electronic boarding pass, as for non-Chinese citizens the airline always checks the passenger's China visa status, as well as the destination country visa (if needed), and for Chinese citizens in most cases they will need to check the destination country visa (though more visa-free options than before of course for Chinese citizens). |
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 36049789)
No issues coming back to China at PEK.
And finally printed out that entry receipt this time at the machine immediately after the eChannels. Definitley helped with a hotel stay! (Thanks to whomever posted that...can't find the post; must be in another thread) |
Originally Posted by GinFizz
(Post 36146177)
I am almost certain that this is a "no". At PEK and PKX the boarding pass is stamped at the security check, not the emigration counter, so even with e-channel a boarding pass is needed. Last time I exited China through PVG was maybe 15 years ago, so can't comment on current procedures there.
I am actually surprised that any airlines would issue an electronic boarding pass, as for non-Chinese citizens the airline always checks the passenger's China visa status, as well as the destination country visa (if needed), and for Chinese citizens in most cases they will need to check the destination country visa (though more visa-free options than before of course for Chinese citizens). |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 36146385)
They’re able to do an electronic “stamp” for domestic flights so I don’t see why they couldn’t for international flights. Leaving from PVG and SHA my boarding pass is never stamped as I use the channel and there is no before immigration stamping check.
Getting back to the chopping topic in isolation, many cogs in the machine really seem to derive joy, satisfaction, and/or a sense of purpose from the process. As such, they don't seem to have a great deal of incentive to move into the 21st century. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 36146575)
....presence of horribly inefficient relics of the bureaucracy...
In the end it's still "China" with all its oddities. Found this out this week once more: needed to provide signed documents for changes to the business structure of a company here in Beijing. I took the liberty of combining the documents' text with the signatures all on one page, as opposed to have all the signatures on a separate page. Well, it was rejected. :rolleyes: They insist that whoever signs, signs on a completely separate page. I was thinking of changing the text of the first page to include "I hereby sign over to 'narvik' 100% of the shares" once I had it signed by all the shareholders. Ridonkulous! Sorry for the OT... |
Exiting PVG today I experienced something I never have before with echannel. The line to use echannel was longer than the foreigner line and the reason was there were two immigration police at the front of the line, before the gates, asking every single user to look at their passport and questioning why they were leaving, where they were going, etc. It was meant just for Chinese citizens as when I reached the front of the line they just waved me through without any questions.
Has anybody seen this before? It will put a small crimp in my “show up an hour before the flight” plans if it becomes a common thing. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 36181408)
Has anybody seen this before? Sounds like a one-off thing....hopefully. I still have trouble entering, as they never want me to enter. I must not look "eChannel eligible". On last exit at PEK, I not only had the regular line attendant keep calling out to me, but also the eChannel person make hand gestures indicating I should be going somewhere else. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 36181408)
Exiting PVG today I experienced something I never have before with echannel. The line to use echannel was longer than the foreigner line and the reason was there were two immigration police at the front of the line, before the gates, asking every single user to look at their passport and questioning why they were leaving, where they were going, etc. It was meant just for Chinese citizens as when I reached the front of the line they just waved me through without any questions.
Has anybody seen this before? It will put a small crimp in my “show up an hour before the flight” plans if it becomes a common thing. |
Exit checks have become tighter for Chinese citizens. Ostensibly it's to make sure they're not being tricked into going to Southeast Asian countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam etc. to be forced into working in telecom scams. At least this is what I can glean from my Chinese social media feed.
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Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 36615393)
Exit checks have become tighter for Chinese citizens. Ostensibly it's to make sure they're not being tricked into going to Southeast Asian countries like Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam etc. to be forced into working in telecom scams. At least this is what I can glean from my Chinese social media feed.
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Originally Posted by tauphi
(Post 36617314)
Or possibly to stem the flood of refugees crossing into the USA from Mexico.
How does this relate to auto gates? I guess it's that the authorities can set certain criteria for manual review. |
Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 36617589)
Ecuador was the major starting point for that route, and that has been clamped shut, at least for now. Ecuador suspended visa-free entry for Chinese citizens in July. But there remains Surinam and Bolivia (visa on arrival).
How does this relate to auto gates? I guess it's that the authorities can set certain criteria for manual review. |
Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 36617589)
Ecuador was the major starting point for that route, and that has been clamped shut, at least for now. Ecuador suspended visa-free entry for Chinese citizens in July. But there remains Surinam and Bolivia (visa on arrival).
How does this relate to auto gates? I guess it's that the authorities can set certain criteria for manual review. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 36628531)
It slows up the exit line as they question every Chinese citizen before they get to the machines. At least this has been my experience at both PVG and PEK this year. I haven’t seen it at SHA.
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Has anyone noticed the location to register for e-channel at TFU? Flying soon and would like to sign up but don't want to miss it (if a counter even exists).
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CAN T2 egate on arrival
Hearing lots about the new QR code entry system for China.
Just wondering if anyone has been through CAN T2 yet and if they have them? If so any top tips? |
Originally Posted by Flighttonowhere
(Post 37543584)
Hearing lots about the new QR code entry system for China.
Just wondering if anyone has been through CAN T2 yet and if they have them? If so any top tips? https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chin...20-2025-a.html If you are interested in eChannel, most of the info in the earlier posts is still valid. The short version is that if you're eligible, you need to register upon arrival (usually between immigration and customs) and update biometrics at the same desks every time your documents change (they might be getting better in this regard). |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 37543845)
Perhaps you're think about this?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/chin...20-2025-a.html If you are interested in eChannel, most of the info in the earlier posts is still valid. The short version is that if you're eligible, you need to register upon arrival (usually between immigration and customs) and update biometrics at the same desks every time your documents change (they might be getting better in this regard). |
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