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moondog May 24, 2022 5:26 am

Reflections of China during 2022 Q2
 
Hello, all. I’m back on FT, but I’m going to make a concerted effort to spend less time on this site, as part of my general initiative to cut back on “screen time”.

I’m posting today to provide my perspective on life here during the past 2 months (the following article was published two months ago today):

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/2022...b29e53056.html

Grid-based lockdowns started up in Shanghai during the second half of March, I think I commented on them in this forum. At the time, we felt they were annoying, but most people were okay with them: 1. they only hit several districts at a time and were relatively short; 2. they weren’t strictly enforced in most cases; and 3. It was still easy to get food (both restaurant food and groceries).

At some point towards the end of March, Shanghai received a visit from some important northerners who were less than impressed by the grid-based strategy. They gave us a phase 2 plan: all points east of the river got 4 days and when they were done, it was our turn for 4 days. This was definitely a step in the wrong direction from a comfort/convenience perspective, but we were promised all would be good after it was done, so we endured (忍耐, you know). It’s also worth noting that we could still get our favorite foods. Furthermore, those of us on the Shanghai side of the river had a full 5 days to prepare.

April ~9 was when the true gauntlet dropped, and with almost no warning at all. The directive affected nearly the entire municipality (26 million people and a larger area than DL and RI combined if I’m not mistaken). It was slated for 14 days. However, there were two catches: 1. the 14-day clock was to reset any time a positive case was detected within your community; and 2. individual community leaders called the shots. #1 wouldn’t be a big deal if your community consisted of 50 people, but if the number is 50,000, it’s pretty much guaranteed to reset until Covid is completely eradicated. More on #2 towards the end of this post.

On April 10 or April 11, I discovered that almost all my go-to food options no longer existed. We were limited to "essentials” boxes from stores like Epermart, group buys (many of which were insanely expensive), and paying mules to pick over (rapidly-depleting) convenience store shelves. Many of us were extremely hungry for two or three days while we waited for our boxes to arrive. I reduced myself to making olive fried rice.

On April 12, government rations started showing up in massive quantities, and there are no signs of this letting up. Sample items: milk, yogurt, rice, noodles, dumplings, cookies, chickens, pork, beef, eggs, tofu, onions, potatoes, carrots, celery, peppers, tomatoes, cabbage, radishes, other random Chinese vegetables, flour, sugar, cooking oil, toothpaste, toilet paper, laundry detergent, disinfectants, Chinese medicine. The food distribution is done at the district or subdistrict level, so different people get different things. It’s also worth noting that there have been reports of certain items being poached along the way to their destinations. Water has never been included, presumably because it’s heavy and they expect us to boil.

At around the same time, I started to figure out how to optimize other available channels (e.g. place orders exactly at specified times, identify well-connected neighbors, go to Aldi in person with very shortlists, simply sort out the good/bad/ugly group buys).

The short of it is that food hasn’t been much of an issue at all, apart from those first several days.

Now, I want to tell you about Covid testing. We have a seemingly limitless supply of antigen test kits and they like us to test twice daily. We upload our results to a health code app and take pictures of our completed test kits to share in the neighborhood group chat (I’m not sure why, but I go with the flow). We also have PCR tests, sometimes daily, sometimes every other day, and sometimes every 3 days. These usually take place at around 1030a; we learn about them minutes beforehand thanks to the lady who walks around downstairs with her megaphone calling out specific building numbers.

In my case, the testing place is at the elementary school next door to our community. To access the school, we have to show our Alipay health code and also throw a completed antigen test kit in a trash can (nobody seems to look at it; it’s just an admission ticket).

During the early days of the lockdown, PCR testing was extremely inefficient (the line was 1000 meters long, they made us bring silly pieces of paper with us to get in, and we had to reregister for their new app every single time). Fortunately, they worked out the kinks and now the system is a complete breeze.

I have grown to cherish PCR tests because they get me outside (my main excuse to leave on non-testing days is “bank business”, but I don’t like overusing it), and once I’m out, I take full advantage of the freedom, especially when the weather is nice.

I’ve discovered that I can go pretty much wherever I want within my district (Xuhui), especially the southern portion, which seems less important politically. For about 6 weeks, they put up police tape along almost all our sidewalks, which they later fortified with temporary fencing. Most of that was removed about a week ago. I’m still not sure what the purpose of this stuff was/is. The main result was that people ended up walking on the streets instead of the sidewalks, not a big deal because road traffic has been extremely light. However, I was reminded of the “bicycles on sidewalks” thread I started in this forum last year; the police tape put that issue to rest while it was around.

When I’m out and about, I see lots of 大白 and some streets are partially/completely blocked off. For example, last week all minor streets connecting Jing’an and Xuhui were blockaded at the border (this coincided with another Capital delegation visit). So, it was necessary to go over to Changshu Rd or Shaanxi Rd to pass (through a checkpoint). About 20% of the time, 大白 asks to see my health code and maybe where I’m going. I was only denied passage once, perhaps in part because I try to avoid known checkpoints.

I’ve deliberately refrained from political commentary in this post because I’m hoping this thread can remain in the China forum. That having been said, since many people outside of China have asked me for my insights, I feel compelled to say a little. Whether or not we like it or think it is silly, Covid-zero is important to the government here. The elderly are the most vulnerable, their vaccination rates are low, and they are highly valued (Confucian traditions, wisdom, taking care of family, etc). I can respect this thinking. Then, there is the Beijing-Shanghai dynamic (for better or for worse, those of us who live down here are pawns in this game that could drag on until November). I’m not especially happy about this, but it is what it is. The only thing that really bothers me is the fluid nature of the “rules” themselves. My neighbors often like to say, “we must follow the rules”. I’m fine with this; the thing is, nobody (including the enforcers) ever seems to know what the rules are. Given this, the path of least resistance is simply keeping us sealed off; if they do this, there won’t be any positive cases under their watch, and they can keep their jobs. If, on the other hand, they open and cases rise, heads will roll.

My predictions of when they’re going to relax things have been so poor thus far that I’m loath to pick a specific date, but it will surely happen at some point within the next month. Whenever it does, I fear that as soon as people start riding around on public transit again, there will be another surge and we’ll have to repeat this entire process. If it comes to that, at least all of us are now properly conditioned.

narvik May 24, 2022 6:25 am

Thanks for the write-up, and welcome back!


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34275624)
... I fear that as soon as people start riding around on public transit again, there will be another surge and we’ll have to repeat this entire process.....

Sadly, that is an inevitability. And one that theoretically will be with us for a VERY long time.

travelinmanS May 24, 2022 6:48 am

It's good to see you back on FT! I think you might have sugar coated the beginning of the lockdown or at least forgotten it. The first 10 days were the most difficult to get food as per my experience and according to the wechat convos we were having at the same time you were also suffering from this lack of food delivery around the 4th or 5th of April.

One of the most interesting things I've noticed about this whole situation is that it was becoming OK for me in the week or two before I left at the end of April. I see this same phenomenon with my friends who are still in lockdown. The "wow, I can ride my bike 3 blocks" posts are indicative of how humans can adapt to very bad situations and normalize things that shouldn't be normalized. Now that I've left I realize what a ridiculously horrible situation I was in and I can only hope for you and for all my other friends there that things change sooner rather than later.

Bluehen1 May 24, 2022 7:29 am

Glad to see you’re back and you’re persevering. I’ve been wondering how I would have made out during this time in my apartment in Xujiahui. You’ve given me a little glimpse. I might not have suffered the early food issues as, even in Shanghai, memories of losing power in the winter when I was a kid have me stocking up. I think the confinement part would be the biggest issue for me. Any issues with the GFW?

GloballyServiced May 25, 2022 11:12 am


April ~9 was when the true gauntlet dropped, and with almost no warning at all.
You had about 6 months of warning if you were paying any attention to China outside your delusional Shanghai expat bubble.


The elderly are the most vulnerable, their vaccination rates are low, and they are highly valued (Confucian traditions, wisdom, taking care of family, etc). I can respect this thinking
absolute BS, if they gave a single crap about the elderly they would help them by supplying MRNA vaccines and proper medical infrastructure. Did you see how many geriatric elderly they rounded up onto buses for covid concentration camp.

[mod edit] No offense, but Shanghai expats were some of the most falsely confident people I ever interacted with. [mod edit]

kb1992 May 25, 2022 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 34279545)
You had about 6 months of warning if you were paying any attention to China outside your delusional Shanghai expat bubble.

absolute BS, if they gave a single crap about the elderly they would help them by supplying MRNA vaccines and proper medical infrastructure. Did you see how many geriatric elderly they rounded up onto buses for covid concentration camp.

Looks like you’re just as delusional after the lockdown as you were before about how China works. No offense, but Shanghai expats were some of the most falsely confident people I ever interacted with.

Harsh comments, but there are lot of truths in your words.

The days that Shanghai maintains an attractive international modern civilized city are over.

I don't know if Shanghai will ever recover, barring a Kingdom leadership change.

Pickles May 25, 2022 7:21 pm

I sense Frank Dikötter has another book to write. This is insane.

moondog May 25, 2022 11:51 pm

Today, I decided to attempt to visit the Bund, after failing on Sunday due to blockades along Ruijin Rd
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bba856e55f.jpg

I've been walking/biking along the river south of me, and I really like it
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...338d4699f0.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...28f806a074.jpg

But, I wanted a change of pace...and, a challenge.

I knew I'd be able to get over there on Fuxing Rd or Huaihai Rd (as opposed to the minor streets closer to the river), so I chose the former, and didn't encounter any snowmen along the way.

I walked by Yuyuan (another over-hyped tourist attraction). It is closed, but there were workers there keeping it in presentable shape.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...eaf88b4b83.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...2ab7c1113a.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...73069556b4.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4f873bbaf2.jpg

Shortly after, I was on Zhongshan Rd near the south end of the Bund. I soon learned that I wouldn't be permitted to cross the street, let alone access the Bund park itself, but the police were fine with letting me proceed north on the west side of the street.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...8e0cf3c250.jpg

The Peace Hotel and the Penn have both seen busier days.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b91afcf7d1.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...46c4196292.jpg

I was hoping to cross Suzhou Creek on Waibaidu Bridge or Zhapu Lu Bridge, but that wasn't in the cards.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fabef0a1f3.jpg

The police told me that these bridges were closed (to me) for my own safety. However, they said the Sichaun Lu bridge was okay. I'm kind of happy about the result because I was able to snap the following picture (more interesting than the standard Bund shots I've taken countless times).

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...97bf9c942a.jpg

This left me close to Tiantong Rd Stn, so I could jump on Line 10 and come back home. Only lines 3, 6 (Pudong), 10, and 16 (Pudong) are running now. I believe the reason for 3 and 10 is that they cover all train stations and Hongqiao Airport. 10 also crosses the river, so it's theoretically possible to get from downtown Shanghai to Century Ave if you take line 10 to line 16 (this is certainly not fast). To get through security check in the subway station, I simply showed the attendant my Alipay green code (needs to display 48 hours or less since the last PCR test, which is never an issue because they test us quite often).

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...459e0eb77f.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...955e8466c2.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...0edc5a8e3f.jpg

Jiatong May 26, 2022 7:48 am

MD, thanks for the FT picture post, Just starting to see a few SH post on IG .

uanj May 26, 2022 11:47 am


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 34279545)
You had about 6 months of warning if you were paying any attention to China outside your delusional Shanghai expat bubble.



absolute BS, if they gave a single crap about the elderly they would help them by supplying MRNA vaccines and proper medical infrastructure. Did you see how many geriatric elderly they rounded up onto buses for covid concentration camp.


No offense, but Shanghai expats were some of the most falsely confident people I ever interacted with.

Everyone has their own iews formed their own experiences. Moondog's observations reflect his perspective but are immensely valuable.


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 34280003)

The days that Shanghai maintains an attractive international modern civilized city are over.

I don't know if Shanghai will ever recover, barring a Kingdom leadership change.

Agree, and it is not just Shanghai's reputation. A lot of discussion going on now about the correct long term sourcing strategies from the risk of being too reliant on China.


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34281145)
Today, I decided to attempt to visit the Bund, after failing on Sunday due to blockades along Ruijin Rd

Glad to see you got out and about! What's with all the abandoned bikes we see in your pics?

moondog May 28, 2022 12:36 am


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 34282563)
Glad to see you got out and about! What's with all the abandoned bikes we see in your pics?

I almost posed this question to one of the wall builders a few weeks ago, but I held back because the bike-share companies would take action (or at least draw attention to the practice) if they cared. Furthermore, I'm guessing that those bikes are fully depreciated within days of entering service. I must admit that they are kind of convenient these days, though, and I don't feel like I'm risking my life when using them because there aren't many cars, trucks, buses, or couriers to worry about.

moondog May 29, 2022 3:49 am

Lots of people were out and about today (well, compared to the rest of the past 60 days, at least).

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...78af101a71.jpg

travelinmanS May 29, 2022 9:24 am

The problem is, as I understand it, it’s like yard time. You get let out for a few hours, you go to the places you used to go and see that everything is still closed. Maybe meet up with a friend or two and down a can of beer you brought and then you have to go back to your apartment and check back in for the night.

No way to live.

UA_Flyer May 29, 2022 4:16 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34289286)
Lots of people were out and about today (well, compared to the rest of the past 60 days, at least).

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...78af101a71.jpg

that is a lot of people. BTW, that building on Huai Hai Road (in the middle of photo) is one of my favorite buildings in Shanghai. When I first visited Shanghai in 1992, the building was in a terrible shape: rusty window bars, broken window glasses, laundry hanging out of windows/balcony, stains on the external walls, missing bricks. I am really glad the building has been well maintained in recent years.

Majuki May 29, 2022 10:02 pm

Thanks for the photos and firsthand account.


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