Optimal cell phone strategies in China
#107
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#108
Join Date: Aug 2023
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Really appreciate the help. We are flying from the uk and have only 2 weeks to visit Beijing, Xian, Chengdu, Yangshuo and Shanghai ro are trying to maximise our time. We have booked everything independently like we do for all our holidays, so have no tour rep or friends in China to help us. The main concern is paying for things, as we understand cash is no longer used and it is all Alipay or Wechat. So the most important part is getting a sim card to use for that, and we don't want to get to Beijing and find out nothing works and we are stuck for paying for things for the fortnight. We just want to get on enjoying the place, easting out and enjoying China. I have heard 3gsolutions use the China Unicom network, but obviously people do not rate them on here, so looking for other options.
So the main concern is getting a phone payment system working so we can relax and enjoy the very short time we have there.
So the main concern is getting a phone payment system working so we can relax and enjoy the very short time we have there.
#109
Join Date: Jan 2016
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If you read the last few pages of Opinion: without Alipay and Wechat Pay, you are screwed in Shanghai you will see that in the past few weeks you can now link a foreign card to Alipay or WeChat pay, so provided you have some sort of data connection then you shouldn't have payment problems.
The query with 3gsolutions is not that it uses the unicom network, but on what foreign network the sim card is issued - it has to be a foreign roaming SIM card or they wouldn't be able to offer access to western social media. It's just that the website is all marketing and no detail of what they're offering actually works.
As someone travelling from the UK you're fortunate that China Mobile have a UK based MVNO and to give you assurance if a working service as you land CMLink UK is a really easy option for you.
You used to be able to pick up HK based SIM cards online with decent roaming bundles for visits into China but these are harder to get hold of these days because of real name & ID registration requirements introduced in HK for most SIM cards.
The query with 3gsolutions is not that it uses the unicom network, but on what foreign network the sim card is issued - it has to be a foreign roaming SIM card or they wouldn't be able to offer access to western social media. It's just that the website is all marketing and no detail of what they're offering actually works.
As someone travelling from the UK you're fortunate that China Mobile have a UK based MVNO and to give you assurance if a working service as you land CMLink UK is a really easy option for you.
You used to be able to pick up HK based SIM cards online with decent roaming bundles for visits into China but these are harder to get hold of these days because of real name & ID registration requirements introduced in HK for most SIM cards.
#111
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What phone number (not actual number, just the provider) did you bind to WeChat and Alipay? Changing this is a mild pita that you wouldn't have to deal with if you roam.
#112
Join Date: Jan 2016
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If you take for example the 11 40G bundle you would need to top 11 and then send the appropriate message to the SMS short code to convert your 11 credit into the 40G bundle. This gives you 36G of data in the UK and 4G of data to use in China, plus some minutes to use in UK and some to use in China. The SIM card has a UK number, unless you opt to also have a Chinese number at extra cost (I don't see the point for your short trip). Activate the SIM card and it's bundle a few days before you leave the UK and just make sure it's working, check your bundle using the word "check" to the SMS short code. Then make sure you have roaming enabled on the SIM in the phone and it will just work when you arrive into China. Any data you use is whilst in China is tunneled back to UK and will break out onto the internet in the UK so you can still access the socials, BBC news and radio, etc.
The bundle will try to renew after a month so unless you expressly selected options for auto top-up if there is no PAYG credit balance then the bundle can't renew and that's it.
It's a hassle free option that eliminates the need to faff with VPNs to get to Gmail, etc.
#113
Join Date: Aug 2023
Posts: 8
Had a quick look at the CMlink webpage which has proved really useful. Does anybody know if the one off bundle will work.
200 Text Messages
The resources of this bundle can be used in the UK/EU/mainland China and Hong Kong
Valid for 1 year (365 days)
Just looks a good deal. I can buy this beforehand, activate in the uk and then us in China.
ONE-OFF ANNUAL BUNDLE
12GB Data
200 Voice Minutes200 Text Messages
The resources of this bundle can be used in the UK/EU/mainland China and Hong Kong
Valid for 1 year (365 days)
Just looks a good deal. I can buy this beforehand, activate in the uk and then us in China.
#114
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: LON
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Had a quick look at the CMlink webpage which has proved really useful. Does anybody know if the one off bundle will work.
200 Text Messages
The resources of this bundle can be used in the UK/EU/mainland China and Hong Kong
Valid for 1 year (365 days)
Just looks a good deal. I can buy this beforehand, activate in the uk and then us in China.
ONE-OFF ANNUAL BUNDLE
12GB Data
200 Voice Minutes200 Text Messages
The resources of this bundle can be used in the UK/EU/mainland China and Hong Kong
Valid for 1 year (365 days)
Just looks a good deal. I can buy this beforehand, activate in the uk and then us in China.
#115
Join Date: Jun 2011
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Reviving this thread in anticipation of my trip next month to the mainland. Scrolled quite a bit through the last couple pages of this thread, but not truly relevant to me, especially given many users are are North America based.
I'd like a prepaid SIM with a local number of course. Don't think I'll be a heavy data user, as I manage with 5 GB/mo here in Europe on prepaid plans. But as a prepaid user, I cannot add non-EU/EEC roaming, so I'm used to just buying local SIM cards wherever I go. Of course, I've only ever bought dual-SIM, unlocked mobile telephones for this reason.
I looked at pre-ordering from Unimobile, but the tarif is expensive (80 $US ?! I pay 10 EUR/month here......). For 2 weeks, 5 GB and some voice/SMS would be enough.
I guess I could take the easy way out and buy one upon arrival at PKX; how much more expensive are the plans/tarifs there ? I'll be arriving on a Sunday afternoon, so I'd expect airport shops to be open.
I could also try and go to a store in the Beijing city centre with my passport, but I also don't want to spend half my day trying to get this done, even if I can speak/understand (but not read) mandarin.
Tips and advice appreciated.
I'd like a prepaid SIM with a local number of course. Don't think I'll be a heavy data user, as I manage with 5 GB/mo here in Europe on prepaid plans. But as a prepaid user, I cannot add non-EU/EEC roaming, so I'm used to just buying local SIM cards wherever I go. Of course, I've only ever bought dual-SIM, unlocked mobile telephones for this reason.
I looked at pre-ordering from Unimobile, but the tarif is expensive (80 $US ?! I pay 10 EUR/month here......). For 2 weeks, 5 GB and some voice/SMS would be enough.
I guess I could take the easy way out and buy one upon arrival at PKX; how much more expensive are the plans/tarifs there ? I'll be arriving on a Sunday afternoon, so I'd expect airport shops to be open.
I could also try and go to a store in the Beijing city centre with my passport, but I also don't want to spend half my day trying to get this done, even if I can speak/understand (but not read) mandarin.
Tips and advice appreciated.
#116
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You're going to need a passport to register in any case (e.g. even if you buy a sim from a street vendor), so you might as well identify a store near your hotel that can pull off the entire process. I suppose it might be worth inquiring at the airport upon arrival as well but tmk most airport kiosks can't handle the registration step.
#117
Join Date: Jun 2011
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You're going to need a passport to register in any case (e.g. even if you buy a sim from a street vendor), so you might as well identify a store near your hotel that can pull off the entire process. I suppose it might be worth inquiring at the airport upon arrival as well but tmk most airport kiosks can't handle the registration step.
And now that I think about it, when I get the chinese SIM, that would kind of nullify the Alipay and WeChat Pay set up where I linked it to my foreign credit card, right ? As in, I'd have to re-setup the payments with that chinese number, or ?
#118
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So only certain stores can handle the registration ?
And now that I think about it, when I get the chinese SIM, that would kind of nullify the Alipay and WeChat Pay set up where I linked it to my foreign credit card, right ? As in, I'd have to re-setup the payments with that chinese number, or ?
And now that I think about it, when I get the chinese SIM, that would kind of nullify the Alipay and WeChat Pay set up where I linked it to my foreign credit card, right ? As in, I'd have to re-setup the payments with that chinese number, or ?
For a short trip to China, I can't see it being worth it, IMO.
If you can get Alipay/WeChat setup before coming to China by using a foreign SIM, and you have decent call/data rates, you're probably better off just doing that.
#119
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I'd like a prepaid SIM with a local number of course.
I guess I could take the easy way out and buy one upon arrival at PKX; how much more expensive are the plans/tarifs there ? I'll be arriving on a Sunday afternoon, so I'd expect airport shops to be open.
I could also try and go to a store in the Beijing city centre with my passport, but I also don't want to spend half my day trying to get this done, even if I can speak/understand (but not read) mandarin.
I guess I could take the easy way out and buy one upon arrival at PKX; how much more expensive are the plans/tarifs there ? I'll be arriving on a Sunday afternoon, so I'd expect airport shops to be open.
I could also try and go to a store in the Beijing city centre with my passport, but I also don't want to spend half my day trying to get this done, even if I can speak/understand (but not read) mandarin.
The plus side is they should know how to do the passport registration so it will get done fast. The city ones may have no clue (my experience).
So only certain stores can handle the registration ?
And now that I think about it, when I get the chinese SIM, that would kind of nullify the Alipay and WeChat Pay set up where I linked it to my foreign credit card, right ? As in, I'd have to re-setup the payments with that chinese number, or ?
And now that I think about it, when I get the chinese SIM, that would kind of nullify the Alipay and WeChat Pay set up where I linked it to my foreign credit card, right ? As in, I'd have to re-setup the payments with that chinese number, or ?
#120
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: FRA/SXB
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Posts: 1,625
Yeah, you're better off to decide beforehand if you want to get a Chinese SIM or not.
For a short trip to China, I can't see it being worth it, IMO.
If you can get Alipay/WeChat setup before coming to China by using a foreign SIM, and you have decent call/data rates, you're probably better off just doing that.
For a short trip to China, I can't see it being worth it, IMO.
If you can get Alipay/WeChat setup before coming to China by using a foreign SIM, and you have decent call/data rates, you're probably better off just doing that.