Current China Entry policy
May 22, 2020, 9:43 pm
#121
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Is the current administration genuinely interested in restarting China flights? It could make all travellers to/from China and US fly indirectly for the foreseeable future.
Last edited by percysmith; May 22, 2020 at 9:51 pm
May 22, 2020, 10:13 pm
#122
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March 2 U.S. surgeon general recently urged the public to “STOP BUYING MASKS!” “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus.
May 23, 2020, 12:25 am
#123
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The US never stopped China flights. This was all on the Chinese government. There are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living in the US who can't get home, and it is insanely expensive and difficult for Americans abroad to return home with the current Chinese restrictions. Borders wouldn't be opening back up, it would just relieve the price pressure and allow Chinese and US nationals to return home. Delta and United see an opportunity to earn money with daily flights, so it's a win-win for everyone, and keeps the current border bans.
May 23, 2020, 1:09 am
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The US never stopped China flights. This was all on the Chinese government. There are hundreds of thousands of Chinese living in the US who can't get home, and it is insanely expensive and difficult for Americans abroad to return home with the current Chinese restrictions. Borders wouldn't be opening back up, it would just relieve the price pressure and allow Chinese and US nationals to return home. Delta and United see an opportunity to earn money with daily flights, so it's a win-win for everyone, and keeps the current border bans.
May 23, 2020, 1:12 am
#125
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I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though.
May 23, 2020, 3:57 am
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They are now processing RP renewals in about seven days rather than the three weeks it used to.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though.
May 23, 2020, 5:12 am
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They are now processing RP renewals in about seven days rather than the three weeks it used to.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though.
I got my renewal beginning of May so would be interested to know if any issued after 28th March would allow exit and re-entry. Not sure I'd be too keen to test it out though.
May 23, 2020, 6:21 am
#128
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May 23, 2020, 6:30 am
#129
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May 23, 2020, 7:02 am
#130
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It is for a chinese citizen needing to return to China for a shorter period of time
Thanks!
Anyone with a Europe list?
It looks like CZ does CAN-CDG, CAN-LHR and CAN-AMS.
Anyone with a Europe list?
It looks like CZ does CAN-CDG, CAN-LHR and CAN-AMS.
May 23, 2020, 9:28 am
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May 23, 2020, 11:02 am
#132
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Air freight costs will drop...cost of consumer goods will drop..US business profits will go up..there is zero downside.
May 23, 2020, 11:34 am
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1. Chinese citizens not allowed to purchase real estate in the US, until US citizens are allowed to purchase real estate in China.
2. US should block Baidu, WeChat, and other Chinese internet services, until China unblocks Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. US media shall be allowed to report freely inside China if Chinese media is allowed to report freely inside the US.
3. China should require US citizens to do an in-person interview to get visas, until the US drops the requirement for Chinese citizens.
4. All "Confucius Institutes" in the US universities to be disbanded, unless the US is allowed to have "George Washington Institutes" in Chinese universities.
...and the ones relevant to this thread:
5. All Chinese citizens banned from entering the US (regardless of origin/location during the past 14 days), until China rescinds its ban on all US citizens entering China. Banning US citizens coming directly from the US due to COVID-19 fears I can understand. Banning US citizens coming directly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. however makes no sense (and yes, I'm aware that these restrictions by the US should also be extended against Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Requiring a 14 day quarantine at the traveler's expense? Sure...and that would probably cut down on passenger traffic by 99%. Total ban? That's just dumb.
6. I'm seeing reports that if US citizens who hold Chinese RPs leave China, they lose their RP. Okay, fine, if that is true, then Chinese citizens with US Green Cards who leave the US should lose their Green Cards.
An eye for an eye.
Last edited by STS-134; May 23, 2020 at 12:01 pm
May 23, 2020, 11:58 am
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So far, DL's been pretty good about giving cash refunds to the original form of payment when flights are cancelled. I wouldn't use an OLTA.
May 23, 2020, 12:04 pm
#135
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I agree that there's almost zero downside to ending tariffs, so long as the other side drops its tariffs, but there are other reciprocity items that I would put in place, such as:
1. Chinese citizens not allowed to purchase real estate in the US, until US citizens are allowed to purchase real estate in China.
Absolutely...and US buyers get to own the land.
2. US should block Baidu, WeChat, and other Chinese internet services, until China unblocks Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. US media shall be allowed to report freely inside China if Chinese media is allowed to report freely inside the US.
Of course!
3. China should require US citizens to do an in-person interview to get visas, until the US drops the requirement for Chinese citizens.
Yes..in per interviews for a country with such wealth and no history of terrorist acts on other nations.
4. All "Confucius Institutes" in the US universities to be disbanded, unless the US is allowed to have "George Washington Institutes" in Chinese universities.
Have no knowledge on that.
...and the one relevant to this thread:
5. All Chinese citizens banned from entering the US (regardless of origin/location during the past 14 days), until China rescinds its ban on all US citizens entering China. Banning US citizens coming directly from the US due to COVID-19 fears I can understand. Banning US citizens coming directly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. however makes no sense (and yes, I'm aware that these restrictions by the US should also be extended against Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Requiring a 14 day quarantine at the traveler's expense? Sure...and that would probably cut down on passenger traffic by 99%. Total ban? That's just dumb.
Yes US never banned chinese (as in china citizens) never banned China flights.
An eye for an eye.
1. Chinese citizens not allowed to purchase real estate in the US, until US citizens are allowed to purchase real estate in China.
Absolutely...and US buyers get to own the land.
2. US should block Baidu, WeChat, and other Chinese internet services, until China unblocks Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. US media shall be allowed to report freely inside China if Chinese media is allowed to report freely inside the US.
Of course!
3. China should require US citizens to do an in-person interview to get visas, until the US drops the requirement for Chinese citizens.
Yes..in per interviews for a country with such wealth and no history of terrorist acts on other nations.
4. All "Confucius Institutes" in the US universities to be disbanded, unless the US is allowed to have "George Washington Institutes" in Chinese universities.
Have no knowledge on that.
...and the one relevant to this thread:
5. All Chinese citizens banned from entering the US (regardless of origin/location during the past 14 days), until China rescinds its ban on all US citizens entering China. Banning US citizens coming directly from the US due to COVID-19 fears I can understand. Banning US citizens coming directly from Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc. however makes no sense (and yes, I'm aware that these restrictions by the US should also be extended against Taiwan, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, etc.). Requiring a 14 day quarantine at the traveler's expense? Sure...and that would probably cut down on passenger traffic by 99%. Total ban? That's just dumb.
Yes US never banned chinese (as in china citizens) never banned China flights.
An eye for an eye.
