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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31976176)
1. Beijing is challenging because of the lottery system
2. Registering cars in Shanghai costs a lot (i.e. ~60x) more, but my understanding is that anyone, including foreigners, can do the drill |
Quite late, but yes, Didi works with foreign credit cards. Although my Didi account is tied to my ICBC US UnionPay card, I have registered non-UnionPay cards with it before. The downside though is that you can only register one credit card at a time. I've only used Didi in Shanghai and Guangzhou, but in both instances I found my drivers to be generally pleasant and capable of coping with my halting command of Chinese.
Another frustration with Didi is that while you used to be able to charge driver tips to your foreign credit card, this is no longer the case, and you'll need to tip them using Alipay, WeChat Pay or some other local system. I usually use Didi on long trips (like hotel to PVG), so I don't tip, but on shorter trips if this continues to be the case I'm going to start handing a cash tip to my driver to go around this, given my own troubles with trying to set up an Alipay or WeChat Pay account. |
Originally Posted by Akiestar
(Post 32419509)
Quite late, but yes, Didi works with foreign credit cards. Although my Didi account is tied to my ICBC US UnionPay card, I have registered non-UnionPay cards with it before. The downside though is that you can only register one credit card at a time. I've only used Didi in Shanghai and Guangzhou, but in both instances I found my drivers to be generally pleasant and capable of coping with my halting command of Chinese.
Another frustration with Didi is that while you used to be able to charge driver tips to your foreign credit card, this is no longer the case, and you'll need to tip them using Alipay, WeChat Pay or some other local system. I usually use Didi on long trips (like hotel to PVG), so I don't tip, but on shorter trips if this continues to be the case I'm going to start handing a cash tip to my driver to go around this, given my own troubles with trying to set up an Alipay or WeChat Pay account. |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 32419640)
Is tipping mandatory? I almost always don't tip in China. Do you know what Didi code as on a credit card?
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 32419864)
I almost never tip myself, but with Didi you can pretip to make yourself more desirable. This comes in handy when the weather is bad and/or on weekend nights. One thing I have noticed about foreign cards is that the taxi options disappear from my menu when I switch to foreign cards. This isn't a huge deal because the lower priced Didi options are about the same price, but it obviously does result in a smaller pool.
What do you mean by the "taxi options"? I don't have any Chinese payment methods and I think I was counting on some dp in the other thread as to whether I would try to open one up in SZ when I was in HK before the COVID-19 became a pandemic. If Didi accept my Chase cards (I wonder if Didi code as ridesharing with my Hyatt card?), that would solve one problem when transit isn't available (like the time I missed the last subway back to the Courtyard near PVG; fortunately I was able to use Apple Maps and followed the instructions back by bus!) |
1. It's not hard getting cars during bad weather if you book an expensive class or significantly up your offer
2. Almost all taxi drivers use Didi (and similar) to the extent that legacy booking channels are almost completely obsolete |
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 32419640)
Is tipping mandatory? I almost always don't tip in China.
You have the option to pre-tip and to tip at the end of the journey. The latter for sure you need a Chinese payment method; the former, I believe you also need one but it may be possible to pass tips using foreign cards. I need to check this again the next time I'm back (whenever that will be).
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 32419864)
I almost never tip myself, but with Didi you can pretip to make yourself more desirable. This comes in handy when the weather is bad and/or on weekend nights. One thing I have noticed about foreign cards is that the taxi options disappear from my menu when I switch to foreign cards. This isn't a huge deal because the lower priced Didi options are about the same price, but it obviously does result in a smaller pool.
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 32419640)
Do you know what Didi code as on a credit card?
Originally Posted by lsquare
(Post 32419898)
If Didi accept my Chase cards (I wonder if Didi code as ridesharing with my Hyatt card?), that would solve one problem when transit isn't available (like the time I missed the last subway back to the Courtyard near PVG; fortunately I was able to use Apple Maps and followed the instructions back by bus!)
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Originally Posted by Akiestar
(Post 32420183)
Tipping isn't mandatory (e.g. I never tip at restaurants), but when it comes to taxis I want to make the trip worthwhile for the driver. If LAX to my office is $40 USD and my trip from the Fairfield on Gonghexin Road to PVG is about ¥200, of course I'd want to give more.
You have the option to pre-tip and to tip at the end of the journey. The latter for sure you need a Chinese payment method; the former, I believe you also need one but it may be possible to pass tips using foreign cards. I need to check this again the next time I'm back (whenever that will be). I've never tried booking taxis with Didi, but I see the option in the app. Is this a more recent development? ICBC doesn't code it as anything, but perhaps I should try using a different card the next time I'm back in China to see what it codes as. I think it will code as ridesharing though, similar to Uber. |
Originally Posted by Akiestar
(Post 32420183)
I've never tried booking taxis with Didi, but I see the option in the app. Is this a more recent development?
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 32420349)
I'm not sure how recent it is, but it is a nice feature to have at your disposal:
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Originally Posted by Akiestar
(Post 32420475)
Oh no, I mean I know I can book taxis with Didi, but how recently was it that I can't pay for one with a foreign credit card? :p
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 32420226)
Taxis are fairly priced in Shanghai, there is no need to tip and it certainly isn’t expected by the drivers. They are more than happy to get that Zhabei to Pudong run for 200!
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Originally Posted by tauphi
(Post 32425084)
No they almost certainly are not fairly priced. The per-km rate hasn't gone up in over ten years.
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 32425100)
And yet it's never been easier to get a taxi to or from the airport (including didi). If it's so unfair why are there so many people looking for the gig?
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Originally Posted by tauphi
(Post 32427892)
Because it's about the only ride that pays more than a pittance? Seriously how much has the cost of living gone up in Shanghai over the last ten years? The cost of housing in Shanghai is similar to most Western cities and the taxi fare is nowhere near the Western average.
That having been said, I'm uncomfortable with the idea tipping just because you feel drivers deserve more money. This just sets expectations, and unevens the playing field. I have a little more sympathy for pre-tipping. While this practice still screws over poor people, if they venture outside on a rainy Friday night, they know what they know what they're getting themselves into. Furthermore, tippers jumping the queue aside, it's much better to book a didi and wait (in comfort) for an hour v standing on the side of the street for 30 minutes. |
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