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Note that they don't even issue tickets any more. You pay at the ticket counter (with your passport) and you just show your passport when you get in.
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I appreciate all the great advice. Couple more questions. What can I expect as far as time from getting off the plane to the pick up point? Arriving 2:20 pm on AA, US citizen, on a Thursday. Want to give the driver a realistic time. also my return is 5:20 pm departure PEK what kind of time allowance to leave hotel? Grand Hyatt, close to Forbidden City. No checked bags. |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30966132)
I appreciate all the great advice. Couple more questions. What can I expect as far as time from getting off the plane to the pick up point? Arriving 2:20 pm on AA, US citizen, on a Thursday. Want to give the driver a realistic time. also my return is 5:20 pm departure PEK what kind of time allowance to leave hotel? Grand Hyatt, close to Forbidden City. No checked bags. 2. I generally aim to get to T2 at T-70 (v T-90 for T3), and I would allow 50 minutes for that taxi ride because you're getting close to rush hour. One tip here is, that if traffic on 2nd/3rd ring is heavy, let the driver use 5th ring. This adds a bit to the fare, but is usually much less congested. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 30966329)
1. By "pick up point", I assume you mean the taxi queue? Immigration at PEK T2 usually isn't horrible, even if you don't have APAC or eChannel, but afternoons can be a bit slow (i.e. 20 minutes). That having been said, if it does take 20 minutes, the good news is that your bags will probably beat you to baggage claim. Assuming an ontime arrival, I think 3p is a fairly safe bet.
2. I generally aim to get to T2 at T-70 (v T-90 for T3), and I would allow 50 minutes for that taxi ride because you're getting close to rush hour. One tip here is, that if traffic on 2nd/3rd ring is heavy, let the driver use 5th ring. This adds a bit to the fare, but is usually much less congested. return is a Saturday so assume no rush hour then. What’s a best case scenario to airport? few more questions. 1. Planning to go to Mutianyu area of Great Wall on a Friday from Grand Hyatt. Asked hotel about transportation by private car, $325 with their car(no!) and about $134 for arranged ride. I assume I’d be safer having them arrange but maybe not? Thoughts? 2. My plan is on arrival maybe walk around when get to hotel, possibly to Tiannemen square. Next morning Great Wall, possibly forbidden city in afternoon. The car services say 8 hours so if 1.5 hrs each way to Great Wall 5 hrs to be there. That seems like way to much. What should I plan for? I’m in decent shape plan to walk around and photograph. I assume I can get food, water at the Great Wall? 3. If I’m back at 2 or 3 what would Be a good place to visit for a short while? I’d plan to do the Forbidden City the morning I leave, 9-1. Enough time? 4. Booked the Grand Hyatt “Made in China” restaurant for Peking duck. I’m thinking I’m not adventurous enough to hit one of the places in the Beijing known for it, and on my own. Am I making a big mistake? |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30973062)
by pickup point I mean where drivers pick up, I’m using Blacklane so assume a meet and greet situation, is that what I can expect in China? If Blacklane doesn't have people who stand outside of the exit holding up a sign with your name, you're better off using a taxi or a hotel car (almost all of the hotel car services do the sign thing). return is a Saturday so assume no rush hour then. What’s a best case scenario to airport? few more questions. 1. Planning to go to Mutianyu area of Great Wall on a Friday from Grand Hyatt. Asked hotel about transportation by private car, $325 with their car(no!) and about $134 for arranged ride. I assume I’d be safer having them arrange but maybe not? Thoughts? 2. My plan is on arrival maybe walk around when get to hotel, possibly to Tiannemen square. Next morning Great Wall, possibly forbidden city in afternoon. The car services say 8 hours so if 1.5 hrs each way to Great Wall 5 hrs to be there. That seems like way to much. What should I plan for? I’m in decent shape plan to walk around and photograph. I assume I can get food, water at the Great Wall? 3. If I’m back at 2 or 3 what would Be a good place to visit for a short while? I’d plan to do the Forbidden City the morning I leave, 9-1. Enough time? 4. Booked the Grand Hyatt “Made in China” restaurant for Peking duck. I’m thinking I’m not adventurous enough to hit one of the places in the Beijing known for it, and on my own. Am I making a big mistake? |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 30973180)
If Blacklane doesn't have people who stand outside of the exit holding up a sign with your name, you're better off using a taxi or a hotel car (almost all of the hotel car services do the sign thing).
I'll go with 40 minutes as a best case scenario. We have threads on this specific topic. I'm inclined to say Y700. The problem with our threads is that many drivers change careers after a year or so (i.e. their contact info might be useless). That having been said, we have the means to get current info. Please see our"one day in Beijing" thread; this won't get you to the Great Wall, but is a drill I've done 200+ times Great Leap Brewery While we all have different tastes, Made in China is my personal favorite. And, since you're staying at the GH, it's a no brainer for you. |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30973284)
Moondog you are awesome thanks. |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30966132)
I appreciate all the great advice. Couple more questions. What can I expect as far as time from getting off the plane to the pick up point? Arriving 2:20 pm on AA, US citizen, on a Thursday. Want to give the driver a realistic time. also my return is 5:20 pm departure PEK what kind of time allowance to leave hotel? Grand Hyatt, close to Forbidden City. No checked bags. With regards to the other queries raised: 1. Driver to GW: US$134 is a decent rate. Make sure it includes tolls and parking (although that only adds tens of dollars). You're getting a car service from the airport, so you aren't a bargain hunter. Yes, you may be able to get a driver for 800RMB instead of 900RMB, but it's not worth the hassle if the GH can really get you a driver for that rate (the driver I used to use for visitors has recently retired, so no personal recommendations). 2. You can get food at Mutianyu, but it's all Chinese options at the wall area itself. The whole area has been upgraded significantly last few years, with more options -- that cater to the 98% of tourists that are Chinese. The "Schoolhouse" at Mutianyu no longer offers a restaurant option, more bespoke catering I believe (and it was never that great imo). 3. You can do Mutianyu on the day of departure: it opens from 08:00 or even sl. earlier in the morning. If you get there before 09:00 that would beat the majority of the crowds. You should account for at least 2 hours there for a visit, and if you want to climb up to the top, an additional hour. It will take c. 2hrs to get there from the GH in traffic (and can be more). Mutianyu is closish to the airport. BUT you need to check if your hotel-arranged driver is happy to drop you there instead of the hotel (they certainly shouldn't charge more, since it's a much shorter trip). 4. I haven't been to Made in China for a few years since the last time I went I found it over-priced and not as good as many of the other options in Beijing and the service had dropped off, however, could be that things are fine now. BUT, since you're staying at the GH, it makes perfect sense: ONLY if you confirm that you can order a half-duck. Otherwise, it will just be way too expensive for a single diner. Lots of other duck restaurants do half-duck orders, which make much more sense for solo travellers if MIC doesn't. 5. For a first time visitor, I think md's timings to the airport and how much earlier to get there are optimistic. Even for T2, I think you should aim to get there 90+ minutes in advance. If you have status on AA, the CA lounge, whilst not super, is reasonably pleasant for a short stay. And don't under-estimate traffic from Dongcheng to the airport. I would leave at least 1hr to get there, and it can take 90+ minutes on occasion. So I would typically suggest leaving 3 hrs prior to flight: in that case, if you take 90 minutes to get there, you won't arrive in a total panic. If you do NOT have status on AA, leave at least 20 minutes just to check-in: they are super slow at checking in at PEK for some reason, and it can be quite a wait. Enjoy! tb |
There are many drivers advertising here: http://www.thebeijinger.com/classifieds/cars-drivers
Never read negative feedback about any of them. I have used Mark a few times. found him on thebeijinger many years ago. He has a website: Mark's Mutianyu great wall Tour ,Beijing tour guide, English speaking driver, Beijing private tour, Made in China is among the best duck that I had in Beijing. You'll find that spending 1.5 hours to 2 hours on the Wall is plenty. |
Originally Posted by JPDM
(Post 30974407)
Made in China is among the best duck that I had in Beijing.
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Originally Posted by trueblu
(Post 30974005)
I don't know "black-lane" but presuming it's a premium car service (since you don't want to take a cab), then surely give them your airline arrival details (which is the LAX-PEK and return from the timings) and let them worry about waiting around for you. As stated, immigration at T2 is much faster than T3 in general. I'm assuming you know that you need a visa, even though you are on a short stay..
With regards to the other queries raised: 1. Driver to GW: US$134 is a decent rate. Make sure it includes tolls and parking (although that only adds tens of dollars). You're getting a car service from the airport, so you aren't a bargain hunter. Yes, you may be able to get a driver for 800RMB instead of 900RMB, but it's not worth the hassle if the GH can really get you a driver for that rate (the driver I used to use for visitors has recently retired, so no personal recommendations). 2. You can get food at Mutianyu, but it's all Chinese options at the wall area itself. The whole area has been upgraded significantly last few years, with more options -- that cater to the 98% of tourists that are Chinese. The "Schoolhouse" at Mutianyu no longer offers a restaurant option, more bespoke catering I believe (and it was never that great imo). 3. You can do Mutianyu on the day of departure: it opens from 08:00 or even sl. earlier in the morning. If you get there before 09:00 that would beat the majority of the crowds. You should account for at least 2 hours there for a visit, and if you want to climb up to the top, an additional hour. It will take c. 2hrs to get there from the GH in traffic (and can be more). Mutianyu is closish to the airport. BUT you need to check if your hotel-arranged driver is happy to drop you there instead of the hotel (they certainly shouldn't charge more, since it's a much shorter trip). 4. I haven't been to Made in China for a few years since the last time I went I found it over-priced and not as good as many of the other options in Beijing and the service had dropped off, however, could be that things are fine now. BUT, since you're staying at the GH, it makes perfect sense: ONLY if you confirm that you can order a half-duck. Otherwise, it will just be way too expensive for a single diner. Lots of other duck restaurants do half-duck orders, which make much more sense for solo travellers if MIC doesn't. 5. For a first time visitor, I think md's timings to the airport and how much earlier to get there are optimistic. Even for T2, I think you should aim to get there 90+ minutes in advance. If you have status on AA, the CA lounge, whilst not super, is reasonably pleasant for a short stay. And don't under-estimate traffic from Dongcheng to the airport. I would leave at least 1hr to get there, and it can take 90+ minutes on occasion. So I would typically suggest leaving 3 hrs prior to flight: in that case, if you take 90 minutes to get there, you won't arrive in a total panic. If you do NOT have status on AA, leave at least 20 minutes just to check-in: they are super slow at checking in at PEK for some reason, and it can be quite a wait. Enjoy! tb yes Visa in hand. Chinese options preferred over Western option. Can see getting to GW between 9 and 10 on my day of departure on a Saturday upcoming, spending 3-4 hrs max then to airport, leaving a bag with the driver. Puts me at airport between 14-15:00 before my 17:20 flight. AA flights all depart T2? CA lounge? Cathay Pacific? EXP with AA, hopefully my SWU clears for inbound like outbound did but check in easier no matter. 1/2 Duck reserved already at Made in China, made sense to stay in house for that. Arrival night playing by ear, interested in recommendations nearby my hotel if not other restaurants in my hotel. |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30976710)
thanks tb! yes Visa in hand. Chinese options preferred over Western option. Can see getting to GW between 9 and 10 on my day of departure on a Saturday upcoming, spending 3-4 hrs max then to airport, leaving a bag with the driver. Puts me at airport between 14-15:00 before my 17:20 flight. AA flights all depart T2? CA lounge? Cathay Pacific? EXP with AA, hopefully my SWU clears for inbound like outbound did but check in easier no matter. 1/2 Duck reserved already at Made in China, made sense to stay in house for that. Arrival night playing by ear, interested in recommendations nearby my hotel if not other restaurants in my hotel. |
Originally Posted by Jonesdds
(Post 30976710)
thanks tb! yes Visa in hand. Chinese options preferred over Western option. Can see getting to GW between 9 and 10 on my day of departure on a Saturday upcoming, spending 3-4 hrs max then to airport, leaving a bag with the driver. Puts me at airport between 14-15:00 before my 17:20 flight. AA flights all depart T2? CA lounge? Cathay Pacific? EXP with AA, hopefully my SWU clears for inbound like outbound did but check in easier no matter. 1/2 Duck reserved already at Made in China, made sense to stay in house for that. Arrival night playing by ear, interested in recommendations nearby my hotel if not other restaurants in my hotel. As EXP you will be fine wrt lines for check-in etc. There's no status-based security fast-track, but T2 is generally fine anyway. The lounge is an Air China lounge: it's nothing special, but better than the average Chinese lounge. For your first day/ arrival, I recommend walking to Tian'anmen in the afternoon and around Wangfujing in the evening if you're not too tired, but not much more than that. You'll then have a couple of days to plan out the rest of your visit. Enjoy! tb |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 30975241)
Agreed. Based on its cheesy name, and location inside an American branded hotel, many people will tell you Dadong is better. While I like Dadong a lot, I give Made in China a slight edge because I love the environment, and the Beggars Chicken is simply cool. FYI, we have a long thread on Peking Duck here; no recent posts, but there are also aren't any recent entrants to the market, as far as I know.
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Great Leap Brewery
Is this still going? I visited it a good few years ago and it was just a conservatory at the back of a house in a Hutong somewhere near Sanlitun. I remember thinking at the time that I was getting lost in the Hutong when I came across a gate with "Great Leap Forward" on it. |
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