Seeking advice: Brit visiting China
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2018
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Seeking advice: Brit visiting China
Hi everyone,
This is my first post here so if I've broken any guidelines sorry - point them out and I'll hopefully be able to correct them.
I'm thinking about heading over to China (Guangzhou) for a visit (first of hopefully a few since it's such a big country to explore).
Any advice/experiences/lessons learned for me?
I'm aware I need to apply for a visa and have heard something about finding a hotel being a bit more awkward as a foreigner. These are the two areas I'm keen to make sure I don't have mistakes with.
Thanks
E
This is my first post here so if I've broken any guidelines sorry - point them out and I'll hopefully be able to correct them.
I'm thinking about heading over to China (Guangzhou) for a visit (first of hopefully a few since it's such a big country to explore).
Any advice/experiences/lessons learned for me?
I'm aware I need to apply for a visa and have heard something about finding a hotel being a bit more awkward as a foreigner. These are the two areas I'm keen to make sure I don't have mistakes with.
Thanks
E
Last edited by stut; Jun 7, 2018 at 8:17 am
#3
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[QUOTE=edot8;29832900]Hi everyone,
This is my first post here so if I've broken any guidelines sorry - point them out and I'll hopefully be able to correct them.
I'm thinking about heading over to China (Guangzhou) for a visit (first of hopefully a few since it's such a big country to explore).
Any advice/experiences/lessons learned for me?
I'm aware I need to apply for a visa and have heard something about finding a hotel being a bit more awkward as a foreigner. These are the two areas I'm keen to make sure I don't have mistakes with.
Thanks
E[/QUOTE
A friend got her visa last year. I think they've changed it mow all you can get is a multi-year entry visa and it's quite expensive.
This is my first post here so if I've broken any guidelines sorry - point them out and I'll hopefully be able to correct them.
I'm thinking about heading over to China (Guangzhou) for a visit (first of hopefully a few since it's such a big country to explore).
Any advice/experiences/lessons learned for me?
I'm aware I need to apply for a visa and have heard something about finding a hotel being a bit more awkward as a foreigner. These are the two areas I'm keen to make sure I don't have mistakes with.
Thanks
E[/QUOTE
A friend got her visa last year. I think they've changed it mow all you can get is a multi-year entry visa and it's quite expensive.
#4
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As already mentioned, this is best dealt with in the China forum and I think your post will move there soon.
However, first question: why Guanzhou for a first visit to China? If not visiting friends or family, I would heartily recommend somewhere else...e.g. Beijing (for the classic 'big' tourist sites) or Shanghai (if into megacity vibe). Hotels are very easy to book..use any online travel site...and you will need to book your flight and hotel in advance of applying for a tourist visa...
Good luck!
tb
However, first question: why Guanzhou for a first visit to China? If not visiting friends or family, I would heartily recommend somewhere else...e.g. Beijing (for the classic 'big' tourist sites) or Shanghai (if into megacity vibe). Hotels are very easy to book..use any online travel site...and you will need to book your flight and hotel in advance of applying for a tourist visa...
Good luck!
tb
#5
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Join Date: Jun 2018
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As already mentioned, this is best dealt with in the China forum and I think your post will move there soon.
However, first question: why Guanzhou for a first visit to China? If not visiting friends or family, I would heartily recommend somewhere else...e.g. Beijing (for the classic 'big' tourist sites) or Shanghai (if into megacity vibe). Hotels are very easy to book..use any online travel site...and you will need to book your flight and hotel in advance of applying for a tourist visa...
Good luck!
tb
However, first question: why Guanzhou for a first visit to China? If not visiting friends or family, I would heartily recommend somewhere else...e.g. Beijing (for the classic 'big' tourist sites) or Shanghai (if into megacity vibe). Hotels are very easy to book..use any online travel site...and you will need to book your flight and hotel in advance of applying for a tourist visa...
Good luck!
tb
GZ first because I have some personal matters to handle there first and my family wants to go to BJ SH GZ SZ next year so I'd be tagging along for that tourism trip then.
#6
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I'm not sure how to move the post to another thread or even how to delete it. It's probably looking at right at me but I can't seem to find it. Didn't want to open another thread if I was able to move/delete this one.
GZ first because I have some personal matters to handle there first and my family wants to go to BJ SH GZ SZ next year so I'd be tagging along for that tourism trip then.
GZ first because I have some personal matters to handle there first and my family wants to go to BJ SH GZ SZ next year so I'd be tagging along for that tourism trip then.
tb
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Apologies, a glitch in the matrix meant the move I did on the app the other night didnt go through. Moving to China (the thread, not me) now.
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#8
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-- Given you are British and are planning a trip to China this year and next, be sure to get your visa beforehand in the UK, where you'll normally get a two-year multiple-entry visa permitting a stay of up to 90 days per entry. If you apply in Hong Kong, say, you'll probably get just a single-entry visa with a 30-day stay.
-- If you roam the streets looking for a hotel in Guangzhou, you probably will encounter "no-foreigner" places. For this reason, and because roaming the streets with your luggage is no fun, you should book ahead, either on websites of major chains or on sites like Agoda, booking.com and ctrip (English). These sites generally note if a place doesn't accept foreigners, but aren't absolutely reliable. Best approach is to check the reviews, looking for recent ones in English. Or contact the hotel directly and confirm your stay will not be a problem.
-- Guangzhou is an interesting enough place for a visit, but if you're travelling in summer note it can be awfully hot and muggy then, making exploring the city not too comfortable.
-- Airfares Europe to Hong Kong are usually cheaper than to Mainland China, so you might find it cheaper to travel through HK. It's an easy train ride from Hong Kong to Guangzhou.
-- If you roam the streets looking for a hotel in Guangzhou, you probably will encounter "no-foreigner" places. For this reason, and because roaming the streets with your luggage is no fun, you should book ahead, either on websites of major chains or on sites like Agoda, booking.com and ctrip (English). These sites generally note if a place doesn't accept foreigners, but aren't absolutely reliable. Best approach is to check the reviews, looking for recent ones in English. Or contact the hotel directly and confirm your stay will not be a problem.
-- Guangzhou is an interesting enough place for a visit, but if you're travelling in summer note it can be awfully hot and muggy then, making exploring the city not too comfortable.
-- Airfares Europe to Hong Kong are usually cheaper than to Mainland China, so you might find it cheaper to travel through HK. It's an easy train ride from Hong Kong to Guangzhou.
#9
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If you're convinced about Guangzhou then you should also book your hotel. Visa application may require reservations. Guangzhou is much too big a city to just wander around with your luggage to find a hotel, 14 million people live there. Beware of the summer temps, humidity is off the charts. Expect temps in the 30-40C range.
If you're considering southern China, why not just do Hong Kong? It's an extremely travel friendly city with a lot of western influence. Very easy to immerse in Chinese/HK culture. If you want Chinese mega-city, Shanghai, Beijing. Something a little off the beaten path would be Hangzhou or Nanjing, both close the Shanghai.
#10
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“Not necessarily."
Didn't I say "usually" and "might" right there in my post?
In any event, Cathay is notorious for expensive fares in and out of Hong Kong. The key isn't what "discounts" Cathay is offering if you fly to Guangzhou instead, but how those "discounted" fares to Guangzhou stack up against fares on other airlines to Hong Kong. I highly suspect, almost to a certainty, that even with Cathay's "discounts" you're still far better off flying another airline in and out of Hong Kong.
Didn't I say "usually" and "might" right there in my post?
In any event, Cathay is notorious for expensive fares in and out of Hong Kong. The key isn't what "discounts" Cathay is offering if you fly to Guangzhou instead, but how those "discounted" fares to Guangzhou stack up against fares on other airlines to Hong Kong. I highly suspect, almost to a certainty, that even with Cathay's "discounts" you're still far better off flying another airline in and out of Hong Kong.
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Found this out when I booked JNB-HKG. So I ended up going JNB-xHKG-CAN (the last leg was on KA I recall). I saved a few hundred bucks in J.
#12
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Not necessarily, Cathay Pacific had a recent sale which made tickets much cheaper to CAN while transiting in HKG as opposed to ending in HKG; so best to shop around.
If you're convinced about Guangzhou then you should also book your hotel. Visa application may require reservations. Guangzhou is much too big a city to just wander around with your luggage to find a hotel, 14 million people live there. Beware of the summer temps, humidity is off the charts. Expect temps in the 30-40C range.
If you're considering southern China, why not just do Hong Kong? It's an extremely travel friendly city with a lot of western influence. Very easy to immerse in Chinese/HK culture. If you want Chinese mega-city, Shanghai, Beijing. Something a little off the beaten path would be Hangzhou or Nanjing, both close the Shanghai.
If you're convinced about Guangzhou then you should also book your hotel. Visa application may require reservations. Guangzhou is much too big a city to just wander around with your luggage to find a hotel, 14 million people live there. Beware of the summer temps, humidity is off the charts. Expect temps in the 30-40C range.
If you're considering southern China, why not just do Hong Kong? It's an extremely travel friendly city with a lot of western influence. Very easy to immerse in Chinese/HK culture. If you want Chinese mega-city, Shanghai, Beijing. Something a little off the beaten path would be Hangzhou or Nanjing, both close the Shanghai.
#13
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-- If you roam the streets looking for a hotel in Guangzhou, you probably will encounter "no-foreigner" places. For this reason, and because roaming the streets with your luggage is no fun, you should book ahead, either on websites of major chains or on sites like Agoda, booking.com and ctrip (English). These sites generally note if a place doesn't accept foreigners, but aren't absolutely reliable. Best approach is to check the reviews, looking for recent ones in English. Or contact the hotel directly and confirm your stay will not be a problem.
#15
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Big western chains are not exempt from this either unless you're staying a hotel that meets western 5 star standards.