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Originally Posted by YariGuy
(Post 27513759)
My first reaction was... why??? There's nothing attractive about the coastline near Shanghai. It's muddy, the sea is yellow (it's called the Yellow Sea for a reason).
Jinshan http://www.absolutechinatours.com/Up...75e3be9622.jpg Waikiki http://www.myhawaii.com.au/wp-conten...kiki-Beach.jpg |
Is that sand in Jinshan the one imported from Hainan, or naturally there?
And is Yellow Sea really so much worse than North or Irish Sea? |
Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack
(Post 27516924)
Is that sand in Jinshan the one imported from Hainan, or naturally there?
And is Yellow Sea really so much worse than North or Irish Sea? |
Hey, thanks so much for the lively discussion. Now I have some data point. I am not looking for a beach but a place away from high rises and crowd, a challenge in China. This will be my third time in Shanghai. The last two times I did the usual tourist stuff which I will do again this time.
The fact that the coast is undeveloped is perfect for me. My hope is to find a place close enough to PVG from which I can experience less pollution including sound pollution and may be catch a sunrise or a sunset. May be see a side of China that is hard to catch with 1.6 Billion people coexisting. A beach would be a bonus but not the objective. Thanks again. |
Originally Posted by Ilove2fly
(Post 27522284)
The fact that the coast is undeveloped is perfect for me.
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Developed with Mud.
The Yangtze also carries a huge amount of sediment—each year, over 600 million tons of mud and silt are discharged at the mouth of this tidally-dominated delta to the East China Sea, muddying the waters for seventy-five miles beyond its conflux with the sea. http://scenariojournal.com/wp-conten...iment_YRDP.jpg http://www.chec.bj.cn/portals/0/phot...0115852593.jpg |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 27523608)
Developed with Mud.
The Yangtze also carries a huge amount of sediment—each year, over 600 million tons of mud and silt are discharged at the mouth of this tidally-dominated delta to the East China Sea, muddying the waters for seventy-five miles beyond its conflux with the sea. After all, most of the pictures presented here are for some reason subtropical, deep clear water beaches - irrelevant to Shanghai. Of course Shanghai is not Tahiti, nor California, nor even Hainan. So what? For an European, or a resident anywhere else in temperate zone, this is simply ordinary. Chilly winters? Check. Often rainy and overcast in summer, with occasional sunny weather? Check. Shallow, sheltered and muddy seas? Check. Thames does not discharge as much mud as Yangtze, but does tend to wash mud back and forth in the shallow Thames Estuary. All of this does not stop Southend on Sea from having a beach. It is not special, but it does not have to be special - it is ordinary, but it is there. And I suspect that the waters of Yangtze Estuary are at the least warmer in summer than those of Thames. Now, besides the streaks of green in sea, your photo also shows green patches on ground, with less buildings than elsewhere. Notably, a section to the southeast of Pudong Airport shows both a green water near shore, and bright green extent of unbuilt land. From other maps, I see few names - location indicators like "Qingyunhe" and "Tongyuan E Road". What is there? |
Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack
(Post 27523809)
But not everywhere equally. I can spot greener sections of the estuary as well.
After all, most of the pictures presented here are for some reason subtropical, deep clear water beaches - irrelevant to Shanghai. Of course Shanghai is not Tahiti, nor California, nor even Hainan. So what? For an European, or a resident anywhere else in temperate zone, this is simply ordinary. Chilly winters? Check. Often rainy and overcast in summer, with occasional sunny weather? Check. Shallow, sheltered and muddy seas? Check. Thames does not discharge as much mud as Yangtze, but does tend to wash mud back and forth in the shallow Thames Estuary. All of this does not stop Southend on Sea from having a beach. It is not special, but it does not have to be special - it is ordinary, but it is there. And I suspect that the waters of Yangtze Estuary are at the least warmer in summer than those of Thames. Now, besides the streaks of green in sea, your photo also shows green patches on ground, with less buildings than elsewhere. Notably, a section to the southeast of Pudong Airport shows both a green water near shore, and bright green extent of unbuilt land. From other maps, I see few names - location indicators like "Qingyunhe" and "Tongyuan E Road". What is there? |
The estuary looks to be very beneficial for coastal agriculture and fishing.
I think clean up the water and build highrise apts ..with imported sand..would make a lot of money. |
The picture of Yanzi discharge blew my mind. I made a comparison of it to Mississippi River using Google Earth. Wow. true, the image for Misssissippi might have been taken during the low flow season, but Wow! In Houston, we talked about the Gulf water being dirty brown because of the discharge from Mississippi. Yangzi is on a different scale. I wish I am not such a chicken and take a heli tour but I am too afraid of flying in a giant metal mosquito.
Hey, I am not a beach person. I just want to see some sea water near PVG. I don't need it to be beautiful just need it to be different, so long if I don't get sick or hurt. Food in China is surprising safe to eat. Hopefully insects in the less developed part are not numerous or aggressive. |
Looks like they have it figured out to make money on the coastline
property. Build sea walls/barriers and filter the muddy sea water into the contained shoreline areas. Guaranteed no shark attacks. https://pmcvariety.files.wordpress.c...0&h=377&crop=1 This is Parrot Island development in Jinshan, do to be finished in 2020. http://www.shanghaidaily.com/newsima...1012001600.jpg |
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