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And the official websites often keep the verbiage about having to stay in the airport during the transit, which hasn't been correct for years.

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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF (Post 27555376)

Indeed. I have yet to see 144-hour TWOV mentioned on any embassy website either.

http://si.china-embassy.org/eng/lsfw/t1348983.htm

Now you saw one.

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Originally Posted by HkCaGu (Post 27472796)

How about if the US government were to have a policy that visa holders from China cannot use SJC to enter the US, and US embassies and consulates do not advertise such information, and Air China does not give you a link to Timatic or mention the SJC exception on its website, and then launch a route PEK-SJC? (Fortunately, CA is much more meticulous on its website, listing all documents required of Taiwanese and HKers who've been buying the PEK transit.)

We're talking about what's "reasonable" here. And CZ flying WUH-USA while not mentioning the WUH exception but is selling routings to third countries is not reasonable.

China lets in EVERYONE without ANY check, payment, whatsoever, on VERY generous TWOV, in some cases up to a week. With a few rules/special cases that you can easily check on TIMATIC (publicly accessible) - if you can't do that, use a TA that will help you..

Consulate website are NEVER to be trusted. No matter which country from what country - they can be horribly outdated.

Try flying to the US - in fact just flying OVER the US (not even transitting) without getting any PAID "approval", even from countries wealthier than the US..

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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 27567127)

Try flying to the US - in fact just flying OVER the US (not even transitting) without getting any PAID "approval", even from countries wealthier than the US..

Off topic, but which countries are wealthier than the US (without resorting to per capita GDP as a yardstick)?

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Originally Posted by moondog (Post 27567577)

Off topic, but which countries are wealthier than the US (without resorting to per capita GDP as a yardstick)?

None - but obviously per capita is meant, when talking about Visa/Free Travel.

Liechtenstein or Luxembourg are tiny and will never even have the GDP of, say, Nigeria. Yet their GDP per capita is high. And yes, GDP per capita is - apart from politics - the reason why you'll ask for Visas or not.

After all, someone from Liechtenstein wouldn't want to illegally work/overstay in the US - while someone from a large yet poor country could..

The pure GDP size decides about other things - like how much the country can force through it's interests - but that's not much connected to the Visa issue (otherwise you'd had Singaporeans needing Visas for everywhere :D )

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Originally Posted by moondog (Post 27567577)

Off topic, but which countries are wealthier than the US (without resorting to per capita GDP as a yardstick)?

Per capita GNP is the proper yardstick for measuring the wealth of a country.