Article about chinese passengers behaviour
 

Hilarious! I live in Shanghai and I find I notice the difference from the second I enter the check-in line for flights back to the mainland...

Vicious circle
 

As an overseas educated Chinese，when I look back all these incidents，I have to say the quality of both the airlines and passengers must be improved through education as early as possible. Air travel is quickly gaining polularity here but the proper can do and can't do are probably not instilled in people's mind. Also delay is a serious issue in domestic market. So a lot of effort is required from all stakeholders to improve the quality and also we need time.

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From this video it does show they arm the cops for spring festival travel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZZLH...e_gdata_player


The incident with the man smashing computers at the gate, here I imagine he would end up
laying in a pool of blood and a few innocent bystanders would be taken out also. Who's system is better?

Article about chinese passengers behaviour
 

What is the people in uniform doing? Did he just stand there and looking at this passenger smashing the computers?!?! And won't he cause all other flights to be delayed as there would be no scanner for the boarding pass? Really ridiculous behavior...

The story I heard is that the guards considered the raging passenger to outrank them because of his position in the state-owned company, so they could not intercede.

More broadly, the incidents described in the article, while on airplanes, seems to be behavior that really shouldn't be tolerated anywhere in public society. Stealing wine on a plane isn't less acceptable than stealing wine on a train, or pooping in a seat, etc. But it's not clear to me that such behavior is more rampant in China than elsewhere, other than for the fact the country has that many more people, some of whom will be outliers. Maybe it is worse in China -- I just don't know.

From my limited experience, the only obnoxious airplane-related behavior that's really troubled me is the absence of queuing, or at least the general lack of respect for lines. The boarding moshpit, also seen in various other areas (getting on the subway, etc.) runs contrary to at least my Western views, and is also generally inefficient (boarding and deboarding of subway trains would be a lot faster if people didn't push right in at the middle of the door, for example).

More and more of the newly wealthy Chinese are from poorly educated backgrounds. Add in the fact that classical Chinese philosophical systems were heavily purged during the earlier Communist years it isn't really surprisingly that people would be crass and self-centered. It isn't much different from the U.S. in the late 1800s with the rise of the new rich who were often seen in the same ways. The main difference is that back then even those new rich were religious.

Anyway I think the bigger issue is the lack of faith. Not necessarily religion but a way of ethics of how one should behave seem to have been lost after WWII. Ironically the Chinese influenced countries like Japan, South Korea etc are more "Chinese" in many ways than China itself.

Tis' true, cos the Chinese Communist Party through social engineering (Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution) purged mainland China of the old social mores and installed loyalty to the party above all else, including family. Compare that to Taiwan, Singapore and Hong Kong which are more traditionally "Chinese" than the mainland currently is.

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so true in the 'money worship' society !

The rise of new rich in the late 1800s from USA you mentioned was interesting...horrible to see today the similar things are happening here...

I guess I am a bit off the topic, but recently I have see on the TV news that some parents started to send their kids to traditional Chinese schools to learn the classics (basically Confucius values and there are also science and English subjects of course) and that's a totally different system from the current extrance exam-oriented eudcation. Whatever the education system is, public order and respect is always something crucial to teach at early stages. I didn't remember that I've learnt much about this at school, probably it's more like having understood this through family members...

Sad to see the growing pocket but still bad public behavior...

Hate to hear this, but it is largely true and I think it takes a long time to restore!

No one knows how long!:mad:

Yeah, because the newly rich in Singapore, HK and Taiwan in the late 80's and early 90's were so refined:confused: Give the Mainlanders time, there is already a creeping backlash by the younger generation. Things will get better in regards to rampant materialism quicker than any of us can imagine.

It'll be fascinating to see how Mainland Chinese culture will develop/change in the near future. Just in the last twenty years, so much has changed, economically, politically, socially at such a rapid pace.

I don't think the deep Chinese civilization ever disappeared. But for people who do not trust any authorities or their messages, for good reason apparently, justifiable reasons for delays might just seem like another set of poor explanations for incompetence.

Actually quite surprised about the AF Wuhan incident. Not often that you would see Chinese gents drinking in public, especially those amounts. At most in the confines of a KTV establishment...Organized crime maybe?