Beijing to the Beach
 

Hi. I want to go to the ocean with a chinese person which never see it before. I know its very easy to go to Tianjin from Beijing, but there is no Beach in the City. I read about Tianjin Beach, but seems to be far outside.
Which is the easiest/shortest/convenience way to go to a beach from Beijing? Dont have to be a warm place, we just want to walk for a while and go back same day.

Apparent choice is Beidaihe 北戴河. Just over 2 hours by semi-highspeed "D" trains.

2 hours? I found different informations, but all say at least 4 hours. Which is the name of the train station?

Beijing main station: e.g.,
[English] http://www.trainby.com/Train-Schedul...g-Beidaihe.htm
[Chinese] http://www.tieyou.com/daigou/beijing-beidaihe.html

Train station is simply Beidaihe. It's about 3-4 miles from the beaches.

D trains include D21, D5, D25, D4531, D17, D19 etc, starting from 7am, leaving from main Beijing station. It's on the main line towards the main cities in the Northeast. Some are non-stops and take as little as 2:02.

Another English language, reliable timetable:
Beijing to Beidaihe
And the reverse

D's are more expensive but for a daytrip, will do the trick nicely.

Thank you, will take a D train. Buy the tickets one day in advance will be enough?

Yep, especially this time of year. You can buy both outbound and return in Beijing.

Ok, hope it will not be to cold and windy next weekend.
Taxidriver wll know where to bring us if we tell him to the beach (in chinese of course)?

Nice beach for people watching


Beidaihe Beach China

Oh I'm sure it will be to cold to do it like them next weekend.

Edit: Will I need her passport to buy the train tickets? Would it be enough if she write down her id-number?

Wow! You're starting to remind me of another love struck poster who occasionally drops by this forum.

My suggestion: ask your lady to buy tickets for you online (ID numbers alone are good enough); this will simultaneously test both her intelligence and commitment.

In that case, beaches can always use more sand.

pedant alert
 

The OP specifically mentions that his friend has never seen the ocean. The body of water at Beidahe is strictly speaking a sea -- I think it's the East China sea.

Now, I'm not 100% sure what the difference between the two is (I think it's to do with the type of earth's crust that is under the water), but am chipping in in case the OP's friend has a very specific desire to see 'ocean'.

tb

:rolleyes: Thanks for your help

Japan might be the closest place to Beijing to see the ocean.

While you are clearly splitting hairs, I agree that Beidaihe is no "Malibu" (not a big deal for most Chinese because fear of water is common in these parts).

That having been said, both my cousin and myself (swimmers) really enjoyed the beach near Laoshan during the beer festival several years back... very nice place, even by global standards. And, that beach did not require any additional "sand" during our visit.

TB is correct. Friend has never gone to the ocean.
Bohai sea, yellow sea, east china sea...well that's a marginal sea.
So to go to the pacific ocean would be quite a distance.

Also there's no surf in Bohai sea. You can have a beach in Kansas.

Bla Bla, she never saw the sea before so that will not be a big deal.

You must all be joking. Yellow Sea is part of Pacific Ocean. And what difference does it make? It is a vast body of sea water, and not a lake.

I have no truck with the OP, but in my life and line of work, words do tend to have a precise meaning, as I know when I get it wrong myself! The OP initially stated that their friend wanted to see 'the ocean'. I just wanted to note that the sea being mentioned wasn't 'ocean'.

I think there is a small technical difference between sea and ocean, from a geological perspective, so much so, that the 'Caspian Sea', the world's largest inland body of water, is actually, technically an ocean. Who knows, maybe OP's friend was a geologist and it mattered?

Anyway, OP has clarified the position -- their friend wants to see a large body of non-inland water, presumably with waves and tide (although even freshwater lakes can have those) and a whiff of 'sea air'. I hope the recommended area fulfils the necessary tick-boxes.

To be fair, I did headline my post as 'pedant alert', since I suspected there was a substantial probability that 'sea' and 'ocean' were being used inter-changeably.

tb

This discussion is so useless. If u really want to know it, first she told me she never saw the sea. Because there is just a small difference to the word for lake in german I asked her if she mean the ocean, and she confirm that. So folks, are you happy now? :rolleyes:

Caspian sea is a salt lake.

You've clearly yet to develop an appreciation for the humor in this forum; without it, half us wouldn't bother showing up.

@rkkwan: Those of us who grew up near oceans understand the difference between oceans and seas, but I agree that this discussion is rather academic.

yes..but it is also an ocean, from a geological principle, and that is despite it being less salty than the world ocean. I have to admit surprise when I first discovered this. Of course, not being a geologist, I've no idea what level of credence to give the source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean

Given the degree of roll eyes the OP is putting out, I fear this rather OT discussion might drive him to distraction...

tb

Indeed. I assumed at first though that the OP had a well developed sense of humor when I saw this

but to be fair, if you actually said "to the beach" to a taxi driver, it's quite likely the reply would be "which one?" ....

Seriously though, as much as I enjoy a stroll on a beach in mid-winter taking in the salty air, I recommend that you combine this one-day beach-by-the-large-body-of-water experience with a trip also to the end of the Great Wall (Shanhaiguan / Laolongtou).

Yes it's a bit (!) tacky, but you can access the beach easily from there as well (even take a boat out into the large-body-of-water rather than just looking at it) and see something else at the same time. Moreover at this time of year I doubt if there is going to be much going on around the "regular" beach areas, though I could be wrong about that.

Is "sea" a synonym for "ocean"?

answer: Depends what the meaning of "is" is.

Could be a option, but I told her today where I want to go with her and she think it will be to cold for Beidaihe. So maybe this time just Tianjin and next time the beach.

I highly doubt that the edits that introduced Caspian sea into that entry came from an expert. It doesn't have a single citation.

Any wikipedia statement with no or suspicious citations should be discarded.

Agreed, and I did state the caveat. However, I think I have read somewhere that the shelf/crust the Caspian on is not typical land crust, but I can't remember where.

At any rate, this rather OT discussion to an OT statement may be giving the OP indigestion.

tb

A healthy skepticism of wikipedia is never a bad thing. Though in this case it is misplaced ....

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...68797107002180 (skeptical of the oceanic crust theory - but acknowledges the opinion)
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2010AGUFM.T43C2249M (fitting of their model data requires assumption that oceanic crust exists below South Caspian sea)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...64817204000741 (evidence from seismic studies that the crust below the Caspian Seas is "thick oceanic" type)

and a web-site that tells you why this debate is not as "academic" as you might think:

http://www.geo.cornell.edu/geology/c...SPIANSEIS.html (there's gold in them there oceans - black gold that is ...)

I have to confess that I was intrigued by trueblu's statement and used some idle moments to dig a little deeper (if you will pardon the pun ...)