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mackenzie77 Mar 24, 2013 6:33 am


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 20471119)
And was gone yesterday when I boarded G211 from Nanjing South to Suzhou North. Don't think too many rural Anhui province and Lishui county folks enjoy foreign foods.

Didn't even notice the Carl's was gone. Wonder how long it's been. I'm always on either one of the earliest or latest trains out of Nanjing South these days so not much idling time there.

I'd actually stop if Subway gave it shot.

mosburger Mar 24, 2013 8:02 am


Originally Posted by lcpteck (Post 20472159)
According to this article, looks like it will link to existing lines to go all the way to Beijing. Guess we'll only know once it's opened.

It seems I'll be a heavy user of the new rail connection as four stations on the route feature rather important business contacts. Just hope they run through trains from Shanghai in either direction.

mosburger Mar 24, 2013 8:04 am


Originally Posted by mackenzie77 (Post 20472929)
Didn't even notice the Carl's was gone. Wonder how long it's been. I'm always on either one of the earliest or latest trains out of Nanjing South these days so not much idling time there.

I'd actually stop if Subway gave it shot.

McD still has a big outlet downstairs at arrivals and I think KFC is also there. On the departure level, only Movenpick ice cream of "western" f&b brands at the moment, if I'm not mistaken.

chornedsnorkack Mar 24, 2013 11:01 am


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 20473266)
It seems I'll be a heavy user of the new rail connection as four stations on the route feature rather important business contacts. Just hope they run through trains from Shanghai in either direction.

The stations would be:
Between Nanjing South and Hangzhou East (249 km) -
Shangfang
Jurong West
Lishui
Wawushan
Liyang
New Yixin
Changxing East
Huzhou South
Deqi
"Yuhang"
Between Hangzhou East and Ningbo (150 km) -
Hangzhou South
Shaoxing North
Shangyu North
Yuyao North
Zhuangqiao.

YuropFlyer Mar 24, 2013 11:33 am

There was NO Carl's Jr. in Nanjing South in Early January. We arrived there relatively early (about 40min prior to departure) and the best choice for "western" food was probably the Breadtalk (turn left when you reach departure floor) - they charge slightly more than in the downtown outlets, if I remember correctly, but for about 4$ I got a nice toast with an egg on it, a bacon roll, and some kind of mini pizza, and a drink. Hungry Chinese in the train looked angry at me :D

Yes, Nanjing South is quite remote, but the advantage is there is almost no traffic jam once you've cleared the inner city towards it. Plus, of course, you could also take the Metro there.

Plus, having the station in the South might make sense as they're expanding the airport right now with a new terminal, making Airport-RailwayStation transit much easier - don't know if they had this in mind, but it's certainly convenient if you fly FRA-NKG directly, and after a short ride you'll be in the train to any smaller Chinese city which before needed a long and tedious travel.

Chinese transportation system is really improving hard.. well, no big surprise here. Plan it, build it, run it. Not like in Europe. :D

chornedsnorkack Mar 24, 2013 11:48 am


Originally Posted by lcpteck (Post 20471445)
Journey time around 50 mins.

Thatīs... fast.

Nanjing South-Hongqiao is 295 km. And the nonstop trains take 67 minutes.

Meaning average speed just 264 km/h. Quite reasonable for a 300 km/h railway, taking into account the acceleration/deceleration.

Nanjing South-Hangzhou East, 249 km, in 50 minutes would mean 299 km/h.

Considering that the fastest trains Beijing-Shanghai now are 4:48... what shall be the fastest train times Beijing-Hangzhou this July? 4:31?

mosburger Mar 25, 2013 12:33 am


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 20474180)
Plus, having the station in the South might make sense as they're expanding the airport right now with a new terminal, making Airport-RailwayStation transit much easier - don't know if they had this in mind, but it's certainly convenient if you fly FRA-NKG directly, and after a short ride you'll be in the train to any smaller Chinese city which before needed a long and tedious travel.

Are the rail links between NKG and Nanjing South and Main stations already operating?

chornedsnorkack Mar 25, 2013 2:08 am


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 20471119)
Btw, wondering if Nanjing South is also planned to have rail connections towards Anhui and Zhejiang provinces or already has? The location would be almost perfect and enable millions of travellers to transfer onto the Jinghu CRH trains.

The 4 next stations on Jinghu railway are in Anhui. Chuzhou, Dingyuan, Bengbu, Suzhou.

YuropFlyer Mar 25, 2013 2:51 am


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 20477421)
Are the rail links between NKG and Nanjing South and Main stations already operating?

Nanjing South to Nanjing Main is open since about 2 years or so..

The Airport isn't linked yet - but taxi service is cheap and plentiful. I assume with the new terminal they're building they've already having plans to include the metro link, so it will be easy to build the station once it's ready (give it another 5 years plan or so..). Given it's China by the time they've finished it, you can ride the metro all the way from PVG to NKG :D

chornedsnorkack Mar 25, 2013 3:18 am


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 20477643)

The Airport isn't linked yet - but taxi service is cheap and plentiful. I assume with the new terminal they're building they've already having plans to include the metro link, so it will be easy to build the station once it's ready (give it another 5 years plan or so..).

S1, formerly called 6, has been under construction since 2011 and is due to open in 2015.

Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 20477643)
Given it's China by the time they've finished it, you can ride the metro all the way from PVG to NKG :D

No. While Shanghai has line 11 to Huaqiao in Suzhou under construction and due to open this year, and Suzhou Metro line 3 to Weiting is scheduled to open in 2015 or 2016, connection between Suzhou and Shanghai is currently missing.

Regarding Anhui - all D and G trains on existing Wuhan-Hefei-Nanjing high speed railway also go to Nanjing South.

YuropFlyer Mar 25, 2013 3:45 am

I wasn't entirely serious with direct Metro link between PVG and NKG - however, I've read somehow that the "master plan" for a "fully developed" Jiangsu/Shanghai area wants full Metro coverage for the whole region, including links inbetween the cities (obviously, they don't want people to ride the whole trip in the metro :D ) - but that's for about 2050, not 2020..

I didn't know they're already building the raillink to the airport - 2015 seems ambitious, but again, this is China. In Berlin, they won't even fix a "finished" airport by then ;)

chornedsnorkack Mar 25, 2013 4:21 am


Originally Posted by mosburger (Post 20471119)
Btw, wondering if Nanjing South is also planned to have rail connections towards Anhui and Zhejiang provinces or already has?

A rail connection towards Anhui which is now under construction and due to open in 2014 is Nanjing-Anqing high speed railway, via Maanshan, Wuhu and Tongling.

mosburger Mar 25, 2013 4:44 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 20477818)
A rail connection towards Anhui which is now under construction and due to open in 2014 is Nanjing-Anqing high speed railway, via Maanshan, Wuhu and Tongling.

Thank you, very interesting. Especially the fast connection to Wuhu is very welcome and should help the city develop rapidly.

chornedsnorkack Mar 25, 2013 4:55 am

The stations of Nanjing-Anqing high speed railway shall be:
Nanjing South
New Jiangning
New Maanshan
New Dangtu
Wuhu
New Wuhu South
New Fanchang
Tongling East
Mount Jiuhua
Chizhou
Anqing.

lcpteck Mar 25, 2013 10:55 am


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 20477643)
The Airport isn't linked yet - but taxi service is cheap and plentiful.

Haven't tried taking a taxi from NKG to the city yet. I've only taken the airport bus (Line 1) a few times to reach Nanjing Train station to switch to subway. It was only RMB$20 for the bus ride. :D


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