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chornedsnorkack Jun 29, 2011 10:16 am

Measurement of train passengers
 
MoR seems to define ticket requirement not by age (which can be looked up from passport and calendar) but by length (which changes and is not written down in documents).

Does the policy (with thresholds of 120 and 150 cm) apply throughout the network?

Where are passengers actually measured? On entering the platforms?

Are there often passengers being accused of being 151 cm, or 121 cm?

Say that a group arrives, with tickets bought ahead, on a sold out train. How are accusations of a member being 121 cm usually handled? (151 cm should not be so problematic because these passengers occupy a place whether 149 or 151 cm, just at a different price).

susiesan Jun 29, 2011 2:03 pm

Huh?

Shenme?

moondog Jun 29, 2011 6:48 pm

Is this a joke thread?

anacapamalibu Jun 29, 2011 7:16 pm

I have seen the measured height lines at train stations more just
for customers to check, not for the officials to check. Haven't
noticed them on trains.

AFAIK the height is measured based on shoes off.

As far as enforcement, don't know specifics on that. Maybe honor system?

1 kid allowed per adult. Balance of kids per adult get no discount.
no kids allowed without accompanying adult.... at least those are the rules.

kid is defined as one under the age of 18.

Rules were changed as of 12/2010 to accomodate the height increase of the population due to
better diet.

jiejie Jun 29, 2011 7:21 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 16648419)
Is this a joke thread?

Really. OP, you planning to show up with a group of adult dwarves?

The regulation is intended to deal with fares for children.

anacapamalibu Jun 29, 2011 7:25 pm

Little people...

dwarf and midget are not "pc" in the PRC.

anacapamalibu Jun 29, 2011 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 16648578)
Little people...

dwarf and midget are not "pc" in the PRC.

Zhuru:

They have their own theme park
Kingdom of Little People
Xiǎo Ǎirén Wángguó

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peg06nZh0yM

mnredfox Jun 30, 2011 12:52 am

Other than not getting onto a FC car with a 2nd class ticket, I've never seen anything else really enforced in China trains. Heck, most folks don't even know there is a carry-on policy.

rkkwan Jun 30, 2011 1:18 am

They absolutely do it. Yours truly at Xining:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2458130_n.jpg

moondog Jun 30, 2011 2:30 am


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 16649786)
They absolutely do it. Yours truly at Xining:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2458130_n.jpg

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that appears to be an amusement park?

chornedsnorkack Jun 30, 2011 3:26 am


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 16648539)
AFAIK the height is measured based on shoes off.

Meaning children of certain heights must remove their shoes to get on either plane or train - at airport to prove that the shoes are not bombs and at rail station to prove that they qualify. Right?

Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 16648539)
1 kid allowed per adult. Balance of kids per adult get no discount.
no kids allowed without accompanying adult.... at least those are the rules.

kid is defined as one under the age of 18.

Meaning that youths aged 12 to 17 can be put on a plane unaccompanied and without the optional unaccompanied minor service, but cannot get on a train. Right?

Also, that adult dwarves do not qualify for child discount, but teenage dwarves do (and 149 cm is not that small for certain populations).

Chinatrvl Jun 30, 2011 4:05 am

I have serious doubts that anybody at the train station will actually start measuring anybody, particularily a laowai. I also doubt that they care about removing shoes (rather measure generously) or about +/- 1 or 2 cm.

You do not need to remove your shoes at chinese airports, btw.

rkkwan Jun 30, 2011 9:14 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 16649903)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that appears to be an amusement park?

Xining train station. Serious.

anacapamalibu Jun 30, 2011 9:48 am


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 16649786)
They absolutely do it. Yours truly at Xining:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net..._2458130_n.jpg

I have seen those before at train stations, they were not positioned
necessarily right at the ticket windows, like the carry-on bag sizer
display you might find at an airport check-in. Just a guide to help
passengers.

anacapamalibu Jun 30, 2011 9:54 am


Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack (Post 16649983)
Meaning children of certain heights must remove their shoes to get on either plane or train - at airport to prove that the shoes are not bombs and at rail station to prove that they qualify. Right?


Meaning that youths aged 12 to 17 can be put on a plane unaccompanied and without the optional unaccompanied minor service, but cannot get on a train. Right?

Also, that adult dwarves do not qualify for child discount, but teenage dwarves do (and 149 cm is not that small for certain populations).

Not a requirement to remove shoes. Just a specific of the rules to
further define the method of measurement.

An adult has to buy the ticket for the kid. As far as planes, don't know
about those rules.

Has to do with height only, not any reference to special needs AFAIK.


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