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Originally Posted by mnredfox
(Post 16642570)
Then again, if memorable is meeting locals on the train, a 2 person isn't the way to go.
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OP:
There are two of us traveling together (a couple) and we are considering upgrading to this sort of travel by train. I do not know or speak any of the native languages spoken in china.
Originally Posted by mnredfox
(Post 16642570)
If looking for the more memorable experience I agree with your reasoning. Then again, if memorable is meeting locals on the train, a 2 person isn't the way to go.
Meeting locals on the train? I could imagine that private cabin could produce a more memorable experience of train travel in China over a hard seat. |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 16642830)
A couple, with at least one with no mandarin speaking ability.
Meeting locals on the train? As far as chatting with people is concerned, last night's train was 30% foreigners, and I expect this number to increase sharply after tomorrow. Furthermore, all of the Chinese people that approached me were dying to practice their English. I can do without those conversations (been there, done that), but the first time rider might get a kick out of the drill. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 16643139)
I took one of the overnight D trains last night (reason: I originally bought a ticket on the fast train for tomorrow, decided I wanted to travel earlier, changing the train ticket was easier than refunding it). I shared a 4 person birth with only one other guy, which was nice enough. But, what I wasn't prepared for was that these D trains make ~5 station shops between 9p and midnight now (as opposed to one previously)... still takes 10 hours, so they must be going a little faster. This was rather annoying because every 15 minutes or so, there was a new group of people traipsing through the aisles with their luggage.
As far as chatting with people is concerned, last night's train was 30% foreigners, and I expect this number to increase sharply after tomorrow. Furthermore, all of the Chinese people that approached me were dying to practice their English. I can do without those conversations (been there, done that), but the first time rider might get a kick out of the drill. Where do you carry on conversations with passengers on an overnight train? |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 16643273)
You were on a "D" train. Its does go faster, its a "bullet train" CRH, 200 KMH.
Where do you carry on conversations with passengers on an overnight train? Apart from that, I often end up in a room with 3 other strangers, who invariably want to talk to me. I usually play along for a bit before moving to the stool in the aisle outside of the room with my computer and/or reading material. I rarely sleep before midnight anyway, but even if I did, it would have been difficult staying asleep with near constant barrage of (really loud) announcements (in Chinese and English) during the first 2.5 hours... "We will be arriving at Wuxi in 5 minutes", "We are arriving at Wuxi Stn now", "welcome aboard our train to South of Beijing Station. The next stop will be Nanjing West", etc, etc. |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 16642830)
OP:
There are two of us traveling together (a couple) and we are considering upgrading to this sort of travel by train. I do not know or speak any of the native languages spoken in china. A couple, with at least one with no mandarin speaking ability. Meeting locals on the train? I could imagine that private cabin could produce a more memorable experience of train travel in China over a hard seat. Makes time go faster if you ask me, but then again with the 4/2 person berth's you can spend hours watching Chinese Kung fu movies too. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 16643367)
Apart from that, I often end up in a room with 3 other strangers, who invariably want to talk to me. I usually play along for a bit before moving to the stool in the aisle outside of the room with my computer and/or reading material.
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Though not available on most CDG services, the very best class-of-service for meeting the locals and practicing Mandarin (or be an impromptu English teacher) is HARD SLEEPER. On longer distances, hard seat has too many farmers (not to mention an agonizing, sleepless experience) which makes your focus Survival Without Going Insane rather than socializing. Soft sleeper is too enclosed and isolating. I've whiled away many a pre-sleep and post-sleep hour chatting, playing games, etc with ordinary Chinese in hard sleeper. When traveling solo on ZTK/number services, my first choice if I can get it, is always hard sleeper. I do not like to risk being shut in with 2-3 men in soft sleeper, and the lack of air circulation in softs make it uncomfortable for me to get much sleep.
However, I have heard anecdotes for years that for women traveling solo in Deluxe 2-person class, they will try to assign you a cabin to be occupied by another woman when possible...or the carriage staff will reassign you in real-time to be in a woman-share situation or by yourself in one cabin (if a vacancy is available and no woman-shares are possible). I have not soloed on this class of service so cannot vouch for on a first-hand basis. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 16643139)
Furthermore, all of the Chinese people that approached me were dying to practice their English.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 16643367)
On the Z trains, I used to enjoy hanging out the dining cars because some of them were uniquely decorated and the atmosphere was just plain interesting. However, the D train dining cars (at least the ones I've seen) are more reminiscent of the cafeterias in local office buildings---> I don't go there, but if I was really in the mood to meet other people, that would be a logical choice.
Apart from that, I often end up in a room with 3 other strangers, who invariably want to talk to me. I usually play along for a bit before moving to the stool in the aisle outside of the room with my computer and/or reading material. I rarely sleep before midnight anyway, but even if I did, it would have been difficult staying asleep with near constant barrage of (really loud) announcements (in Chinese and English) during the first 2.5 hours... "We will be arriving at Wuxi in 5 minutes", "We are arriving at Wuxi Stn now", "welcome aboard our train to South of Beijing Station. The next stop will be Nanjing West", etc, etc. BTW, Nanjing West is almost abandoned. No C/D/G trains go there. :p |
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