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78,000 cars in Beijing 1978
4.8 million in 2010 One giant parking lot. |
Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 17875272)
78,000 cars in Beijing 1978
4.8 million in 2010 One giant parking lot. |
Beijing odd/even license plates
My understanding is that driving is still somewhat restricted in Beijing based on whether you have an odd or even license plate.
A supplier I have in BJ told me, however, that he has two cars, one even, one odd, to get around the restriction. So much for trying to control pollution and traffic congestion. |
Originally Posted by junipermike
(Post 17894492)
My understanding is that driving is still somewhat restricted in Beijing based on whether you have an odd or even license plate.
A supplier I have in BJ told me, however, that he has two cars, one even, one odd, to get around the restriction. So much for trying to control pollution and traffic congestion. tb |
Originally Posted by junipermike
(Post 17894492)
My understanding is that driving is still somewhat restricted in Beijing based on whether you have an odd or even license plate.
A supplier I have in BJ told me, however, that he has two cars, one even, one odd, to get around the restriction. So much for trying to control pollution and traffic congestion. The "license plate lottery" is the government's latest defense against the car problem. Every month, 1 in ~12 applicants are given the opportunity to fetch license plates. Naturally, those with 关系 have figured out ways to beat the system, but it has been reasonably effective. That having been said, the Shanghai approach (expensive license plates) is clearly a better solution to the problem at hand. Worry not; I remain confident that BJ will be a nice place some day; it's basically 30 years behind Tokyo (i.e. give it a chance to catch up), and the guys running the show are not morons. |
Originally Posted by trueblu
(Post 17894930)
It's days of the week...so on any one (work) day, only about 20% of cars are off the road. A true even/odd system would take 50% of cars off the road, but it would be utterly brutal -- which may be what is actually needed!
tb |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17895031)
Worry not; I remain confident that BJ will be a nice place some day; it's basically 30 years behind Tokyo (i.e. give it a chance to catch up), and the guys running the show are not morons.
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Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 17902833)
You are more optimistic than I. I think BJ will not become a nice place to live again, until it's de-populated by about 1/3 of the present level. That may have to happen at some point anyway, due to outstripping of water supplies, which unlike traffic and pollution, is not talked about here (or much anywhere else publicly), but is probably an even more serious issue.
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Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 17902833)
You are more optimistic than I. I think BJ will not become a nice place to live again, until it's de-populated by about 1/3 of the present level. That may have to happen at some point anyway, due to outstripping of water supplies, which unlike traffic and pollution, is not talked about here (or much anywhere else publicly), but is probably an even more serious issue.
WATER SHORTAGE IN BEIJING SEVERE |
Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 17902833)
You are more optimistic than I. I think BJ will not become a nice place to live again, until it's de-populated by about 1/3 of the present level. That may have to happen at some point anyway, due to outstripping of water supplies, which unlike traffic and pollution, is not talked about here (or much anywhere else publicly), but is probably an even more serious issue.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 17874138)
While tough emissions laws/incentives may well have worked wonders in Los Angeles, I'm not convinced that similar laws would solve Beijing's problems.
I know of a few cases where there is very convincing proof of a certain kind that emission figures recorded by local laboratories where later changed to keep them within allowed levels. |
Originally Posted by mosburger
(Post 17907571)
Especially as local authorities are forging industry emission figures to protect state owned companies and private tycoons with good guangxi.
I know of a few cases where there is very convincing proof of a certain kind that emission figures recorded by local laboratories where later changed to keep them within allowed levels. No big fine or jail if caught falsifying emissions reports. http://china-wire.org/?p=17278 |
Is pollution bad today in PEK?
I was looking at the AQI index and it was 160+... Anyone knows of a webcam for PEK? The only webcam i could find showed a grey landscape scene in the afternoon so I'm not exactly sure it was accurate. Edit: hmm, looking through the US Embassy AQI, it seems that some days are pretty good, as in sub-50. But, May 1 was 300+ at noon! That is just ridiculous. |
Beijing needs a better subway.
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Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
(Post 17874357)
Quick Fix@:-)
Even-Odd Plates worked for 08 Olympics
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