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HKtraveller Nov 22, 2010 11:36 pm

Do USD ATMs exist in China?
 
I wonder if it is possible to find an ATM to withdraw USD (HSBC in HK has some, but it seems they can not be used with foreign issued cards) ?

mnredfox Nov 23, 2010 7:29 am

Never seen them, only seen USD at hotels and money exchange places...

YuropFlyer Nov 23, 2010 7:33 am

No. Why would you want so, anyway? USD is not an accepted currency in China, only RMB is accepted. If you want to change money in China to USD for whatever reason, then you can go to a Bank to exchange.

HKtraveller Nov 23, 2010 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 15252040)
...USD is not an accepted currency in China, only RMB is accepted. If you want to change money in China to USD for whatever reason, then you can go to a Bank to exchange.

The same applies for Hong Kong, Indonesia, Philippines and Malaysia. They still do have foreign currency ATMS.

i'mlovin'it Nov 23, 2010 6:15 pm

They have them at PVG and I've seen them in Shenzhen (in metro stations of all places).

moondog Nov 23, 2010 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by i'mlovin'it (Post 15260817)
They have them at PVG and I've seen them in Shenzhen (in metro stations of all places).

Are you talking about actual ATMs or forex machines? I've seen the latter in many random places, but never the former.

i'mlovin'it Nov 23, 2010 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 15261572)
Are you talking about actual ATMs or forex machines? I've seen the latter in many random places, but never the former.

I guess I don't really differentiate between the 2. If I can stick an ATM card into it and I can get cash out, I call it an ATM. The machine I saw at PVG, looked to be an ATM and advertised that you could get currency in USD, CAD, and Euros. I didn't look at it too closely but it could have been a forex machine. It was near gate 77.

At Shenzhen, it was definitely an ATM.

moondog Nov 23, 2010 11:02 pm


Originally Posted by i'mlovin'it (Post 15263695)
I guess I don't really differentiate between the 2. If I can stick an ATM card into it and I can get cash out, I call it an ATM. The machine I saw at PVG, looked to be an ATM and advertised that you could get currency in USD, CAD, and Euros. I didn't look at it too closely but it could have been a forex machine. It was near gate 77.

At Shenzhen, it was definitely an ATM.

The forex machines require you to insert foreign currency in order to receive RMB. Perhaps it's possible to do the reverse and/or insert an ATM card, but I'm only aware of the aforementioned functionality... kind of nice to be able to change money without providing a passport, room number, etc.

OP: I received your PM and am replying here because: 1) I don't have any good advice to offer; and 2) my PM box is almost full again. If you need USD in China, we might be able to work out a mutually beneficial arrangement because my current problem is that I constantly have a stash of greenbacks over there and I've yet to find a bank that is interested in helping me park them (Chinese banks will take them, but as far as I can tell, they charge hefty fees for serving a purpose that is only marginally safer than me hiding them in a clever place). If I could figure out a reliable way to get them into the US banking system, I'd be thrilled.

HKtraveller Nov 23, 2010 11:26 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 15263794)
If I could figure out a reliable way to get them into the US banking system, I'd be thrilled.

Pretty simple if you can afford a premier account with HSBC. You can deposit cash up to 5k USD per day free of charge and can transfer the same amount to a HSBC account in the US free of charge if done online. The requirement for a premier account in China is the equivalent of 500k RMB balance or 300 RMB charges per month.

moondog Nov 24, 2010 12:13 am


Originally Posted by HKtraveller (Post 15264004)
Pretty simple if you can afford a premier account with HSBC.

I can't (without lying).

HKtraveller Nov 24, 2010 12:15 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 15264430)
I can't (without lying).

Wouldn't the 300 RMB per month option help? The premier status is valid with all HSBC banks worldwide that provide premier accounts (not Macau for example).

rkkwan Nov 24, 2010 4:09 am

Don't know about other countries, but banks in Hong Kong have always offer USD saving accounts. I am talking about at least since the 70's. For example, the saving "booklet" for HKD from HSBC are red in color, while USD ones are green.

So, it makes sense for HSBC or other banks in Hong Kong to provide ATMs for those customers who have USD-based saving accounts.

jamar Nov 24, 2010 4:20 am

Why not just wire it? 300RMB/month might be more than your wire costs depending on how much you're wiring and how many times you need to do it.

And on that topic, banks on the mainland offer US$ savings accounts too, but do you see any US$-issuing ATMs here? Apparently not. Though one bank I go with happily offers US$ cash deposit/withdrawal fee-free at pretty much any branch.

tauphi Nov 24, 2010 6:01 am


Originally Posted by jamar (Post 15265779)
And on that topic, banks on the mainland offer US$ savings accounts too, but do you see any US$-issuing ATMs here? Apparently not. Though one bank I go with happily offers US$ cash deposit/withdrawal fee-free at pretty much any branch.

I think any of the big four banks will let you deposit/withdraw USD (or any other major currency + AUD/CAD) without a fee. If you're withdrawing you should make an appointment the day before as they may not have enough stock on site.

jamar Nov 24, 2010 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 15266309)
I think any of the big four banks will let you deposit/withdraw USD (or any other major currency + AUD/CAD) without a fee. If you're withdrawing you should make an appointment the day before as they may not have enough stock on site.

True. Though I have accounts at smaller and foreign banks (Dah Sing, for example; when I go there there's never a line- in, done, out) so it seems like a bigger deal to me, I guess (though thus far, only Standard Chartered charges for US$ cash withdrawal- why?).

jamar Nov 24, 2010 4:07 pm

(double post)

fsfguy Nov 24, 2010 5:17 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 15263794)
If I could figure out a reliable way to get them into the US banking system, I'd be thrilled.

You might check with Citibank, they have branches in SHA, BJS, CTU and some other places. They have a Citi/Citigold office in the Peace Hotel. Their CN accts accept deposits in 10 currencies incl. USD and you might be able to make USD deposits there to a US based account. They allow linkage between their US accts and Citi accts in other countries for fee-free transfers.

moondog Nov 24, 2010 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by fsfguy (Post 15274629)
You might check with Citibank, they have branches in SHA, BJS, CTU and some other places. They have a Citi/Citigold office in the Peace Hotel. Their CN accts accept deposits in 10 currencies incl. USD and you might be able to make USD deposits there to a US based account. They allow linkage between their US accts and Citi accts in other countries for fee-free transfers.

I did check with them, but those guys pretty much told me to pound sand when it became apparent that I wasn't planning on parking a 6 figure (US) balance there.... I later learned that starting off with $5-10k and telling them you'll cover the rest "next week" is supposedly an effective strategy.

Anyway, I appreciate all of the advice. I'm optimistic that I'll figure out a slightly better arrangement (than the sock drawer strategy) when I get back there.

tauphi Nov 25, 2010 5:14 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 15274724)
Anyway, I appreciate all of the advice. I'm optimistic that I'll figure out a slightly better arrangement (than the sock drawer strategy) when I get back there.

Check this thread out:

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/phpbbfo...e-t118211.html

The demand draft + scan & deposit idea appears to be cheap and fast. Though it does require your US bank to accept deposits through uploads.

tauphi Nov 25, 2010 5:20 am


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 15279641)
The demand draft + scan & deposit idea appears to be cheap and fast. Though it does require your US bank to accept deposits through uploads.

Ah never mind, this won't work for you since you're starting with physical USD notes, not RMB.

benzemalyonnais Dec 4, 2010 10:25 am

HSBC is definitely the way to go for this kind of stuff....the world's local bank is also the best bank in my opinion...

But I used to be with BOA, and I know they partner with China Construction Bank...meaning you get no ATM fees and get USD/EUR from them at no cost...I once remember exchanging 100,000TWD with them in SH because no one would do it elsewhere so I imagine they could get you USD at a reasonable rate...

tauphi Dec 4, 2010 7:13 pm


Originally Posted by benzemalyonnais (Post 15380306)
But I used to be with BOA, and I know they partner with China Construction Bank...meaning you get no ATM fees and get USD/EUR from them at no cost...I once remember exchanging 100,000TWD with them in SH because no one would do it elsewhere so I imagine they could get you USD at a reasonable rate...

My local BoC branch is now accepting TWD transactions.

HKtraveller Dec 9, 2010 7:27 am


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 15382623)
My local BoC branch is now accepting TWD transactions.

What is TWD? Do you possibly mean NTD?

tauphi Dec 9, 2010 6:06 pm


Originally Posted by HKtraveller (Post 15412990)
What is TWD? Do you possibly mean NTD?

Right, thanks for nit-picking :p

As if anyone would still be walking around with a wad of TWDs

Actually no, TWD is still the currency code:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWD

mnredfox Dec 10, 2010 10:30 am


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 15417341)
Right, thanks for nit-picking :p

As if anyone would still be walking around with a wad of TWDs

Actually no, TWD is still the currency code:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWD

And you can't convert in google if you use ntd, you have to use twd. Google after all is the final word on everything... :D

snowy109 Dec 13, 2010 10:57 pm

No. Why do you need USD in China anyway?


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