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Landing Gear Aug 22, 2008 2:38 pm

How Does The TSA "Magic Flashlight" Work?
 
I was at DFW yesterday and I showed them my New York State driver's license. The ID checker shined some kind of light on it for a second or two before letting me go.

The passenger before me, however, had shown an EU (French) passort which got the same "magic flashlight" go over.

What is this light? How is it supposed to work?

gfunkdave Aug 22, 2008 2:39 pm

It's a black light that makes any holograms on the document easy to see.

FlyinHawaiian Aug 22, 2008 2:46 pm

Most valid forms of identification have security features that are visible when illuminated with ultra-violet light.

Landing Gear Aug 22, 2008 2:50 pm

Hmm.

Most hand-held UV lights I've seen looked like blue flourescent tubes.

gfunkdave Aug 22, 2008 2:53 pm

They make both incandescent and fluorescent black lights. And LED based ones too, I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_light

Black light is "soft" UV light - just a bit of UVA and nothing over 400 nm wavelength.

In any case, FlyinHawaiian and I were saying pretty much the same thing. :)

MileageAddict Aug 22, 2008 3:06 pm

TSA magic flashlight instrcutions:

1. scan ID with magic flashlight
2. pretend you do not see any hologram, hold ID at various angles
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger for 3 seconds
4. grunt and let them proceed to shoe carnival

goalie Aug 22, 2008 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by MileageAddict (Post 10245351)
TSA magic flashlight instrcutions:

1. scan ID with magic flashlight
2. pretend you do not see any hologram, hold ID at various angles
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger for 3 seconds
4. grunt and let them proceed to shoe carnival

i'm telling!!!!-what you just told the public was ssi :D

Mikey likes it Aug 22, 2008 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 10245438)
i'm telling!!!!-what you just told the public was ssi :D

Sadly self-evident ignorance?

TheRoadie Aug 22, 2008 4:15 pm

Step zero for the truly brave: Write "KHIAI" in black light ink on the edge of the ID first. If they ask, explain that it stands for Kip Hawley is an Inspiration and it's a new secret admiration society and aren't they members yet?!?

Polar Man Aug 22, 2008 4:31 pm

I might get in trouble for this one
 

Originally Posted by TheRoadie (Post 10245660)
If they ask, explain that it stands for [B][I]Kip Hawley is an Inspiration

Is that Inspiration like thoes handicap kids on the jerry lewis telethon
ah heck i am going to hell now;)

LessO2 Aug 22, 2008 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by MileageAddict (Post 10245351)
TSA magic flashlight instrcutions:

1. scan ID with magic flashlight
2. pretend you do not see any hologram, hold ID at various angles
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger for 3 seconds
4. grunt and let them proceed to shoe carnival

Passenger instructions:
1. Try not to laugh, it might get you a retaliatory secondary (especially at AUS).

Flaflyer Aug 22, 2008 5:55 pm

Guilty until proven innocent SSI department
 

Originally Posted by MileageAddict (Post 10245351)
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger

When did we get the status upgrade? I thought passengers were all "terrorists--potential non-terrorists". :rolleyes:

Landing Gear Aug 22, 2008 6:02 pm


Originally Posted by MileageAddict (Post 10245351)
TSA magic flashlight instrcutions:

1. scan ID with magic flashlight
2. pretend you do not see any hologram, hold ID at various angles
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger for 3 seconds
4. grunt and let them proceed to shoe carnival

Wait, this seems very familiar.

Is this checklist right next to the one for "examining" women pax with underwire bras? :D

arizonawildcat Aug 22, 2008 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by MileageAddict (Post 10245351)
TSA magic flashlight instrcutions:

1. scan ID with magic flashlight
2. pretend you do not see any hologram, hold ID at various angles
3. stare at potential terrorist-passenger for 3 seconds
4. grunt and let them proceed to shoe carnival

This, my friends, is comedy gold.

ProvRIGuy Aug 22, 2008 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by TheRoadie (Post 10245660)
Step zero for the truly brave: Write "KHIAI" in black light ink on the edge of the ID first. If they ask, explain that it stands for Kip Hawley is an Inspiration and it's a new secret admiration society and aren't they members yet?!?

Serious question - while inadvisable, is "Step 0" actually illegal? Could I be subject for arrest for "Tampering with a REAL ID" or some such "offense"? And, if so, is that a state or Federal crime?

sbm12 Aug 22, 2008 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by ProvRIGuy (Post 10246650)
Serious question - while inadvisable, is "Step 0" actually illegal? Could I be subject for arrest for "Tampering with a REAL ID" or some such "offense"? And, if so, is that a state or Federal crime?

It wouldn't be federal, but modifying an official document could get you in trouble. You'll have to figure out what the rules are for your state. Something to research....

GothJenny Aug 22, 2008 9:45 pm

Is it okay to modify my official Wonder Woman fan club membership card? It does have my picture on it and it is laminated. :p

mikeon Aug 23, 2008 4:02 am

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tsadude1 Aug 23, 2008 4:40 am


Originally Posted by Landing Gear (Post 10245199)
I was at DFW yesterday and I showed them my New York State driver's license. The ID checker shined some kind of light on it for a second or two before letting me go.

The passenger before me, however, had shown an EU (French) passort which got the same "magic flashlight" go over.

What is this light? How is it supposed to work?

Magic batteries :D I couldnt resist. UV features on the IDs will illuminate under the light. My FCC and FAA license have them also.

polonius Aug 23, 2008 9:22 am


Originally Posted by TheRoadie (Post 10245660)
Step zero for the truly brave: Write "KHIAI" in black light ink on the edge of the ID first. If they ask, explain that it stands for Kip Hawley is an Inspiration and it's a new secret admiration society and aren't they members yet?!?

Good idea. But mine says "KHIAFI"? How should I explain this?

Flaflyer Aug 23, 2008 10:13 am

Where the idea came from
 

Originally Posted by tsadude1 (Post 10247472)
Magic batteries.

You are correct. The "magic flashlights" work on the magic principle. According to his unofficial bio, Kip Hawley received an "A+" in "Viewing Invisible Ancient Runes" class his third year at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Apparition Wizardry. Unfortunately for us, that same year he also got a "D-" in "Explosive Potions of Everyday Water."

JDiver Aug 23, 2008 11:12 am

Hmm. KHIAFI, Gaddafi, it all sounds very terroristic to me - you're busted! ;)

And, yes, uv flashlights are nothing new - you can even use a filter on a light source to render UV only. I have used an underwater uv flashlight for years for night dives - some critters are easier to find (like scorpions in the desert as well) and it is easier to discern healthy form dead coral. (One provider.)

Now they can have their fun, too. And we can say "I've been ultraviolated." ;)


Originally Posted by polonius (Post 10248185)
Good idea. But mine says "KHIAFI"? How should I explain this?


Deacon Aug 26, 2008 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by polonius (Post 10248185)
Good idea. But mine says "KHIAFI"? How should I explain this?

Substitute "Fabulous" for the originally intended adjective. Oh! You meant "fabulous" in the first place? How about, uh ... wait for it ... let's try "floobelgasterous"! Yeah that's it - just tell 'em it's kinda like "horrific" but in a good way.


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