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TSA officials handcuffed by Chicago police, TSA to fine city.

TSA officials handcuffed by Chicago police, TSA to fine city.

Old Jul 22, 08, 11:53 pm
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TSA officials handcuffed by Chicago police, TSA to fine city.

It would be nice if the aviation department responded by evicting the TSA.

I am betting they tried the "i'm a federal agent" line on some real law enforcement types.

CHICAGO, July 22 (UPI) -- U.S. transportation authorities want to fine the city of Chicago $10,000 for allegedly handcuffing and detaining federal undercover inspectors, sources say.

Inspectors from the U.S. Transportation Security Administration were conducting an undercover assessment of security at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport when they were seized and handcuffed by unarmed officers working for the city's aviation department, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday.

The newspaper said the officers refused to let the TSA agents go even after they identified themselves as federal security officials, unnamed sources told the newspaper. As a result, the TSA is recommending a $10,000 fine against the city.

"We followed protocol regarding unauthorized entry into a secure area at the airport. No fine has been assessed" yet by the TSA, Chicago Aviation Department spokeswoman Karen Pride told the Sun-Times
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/07/...dcuff_incident

Edit: UPI won't let you deep-link, it will bounce to their homepage

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Old Jul 22, 08, 11:55 pm
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"Inspectors from the U.S. Transportation Security Administration were conducting an undercover assessment of security at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport when they were seized and handcuffed by unarmed officers working for the city's aviation department, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday."

Stories like this warm my heart. I hope the TSA doesn't get a dime and instead is slapped with some fines and criminal complaints.
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Old Jul 22, 08, 11:56 pm
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I see nothing in the story which would indicate that these people are "goons".

Would you please explain why you believe they are.
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a goon mentality is a condition of employment for any branch of the DHS.
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so a badge and an i/d means the undercover tsa inspectors can be let free before verifying the validity of said badge & said i/d? i don't think so and good on the o'hare employees for doing their job -someone is in an area where they shouldn't be so detain, question & verify-isn't that what any leo would do.

btw-the link didn't work but this one did: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/07/...6961216750460/
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Old Jul 23, 08, 12:18 am
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a goon mentality is a condition of employment for any branch of the DHS.
That statement is ridiculous. We have quite a few TSAers who are members of FT who in no way have demonstrated having a "goon mentality". Personally, I think you should apologize to them.

In addition, if you are ever in a capsized boat off the U.S. shores you might want to think twice before telling the Coast Guard members who come to save you that they are goons.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 12:27 am
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Fortunately I hate the water and for those TSA employees on Flyertalk, I wish them nothing but the best in their search for alternative employment. I have far too much contact with the employees of DHS to have any remaining tollerance or empathy for them, they know what they are a part of.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 12:59 am
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LOL. At least those particular agents know how we feel when we are threatened with arrest.

Now they were arrested by the Chicago police right? Well, let this be a lesson to everyone that one should always have a couple of $100 bills in one's wallet to deal with such situations.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 4:51 am
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The security guards should be praised for not flinching when shown a TSA ID.

I think what boils my blood is the fact that the TSA is upset because their undercover agents' IDs were not accepted but the TSA forces an ID verification on every passenger regardless of suspension.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 5:55 am
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Another Example of the DHS Mentality

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Fortunately I hate the water and for those TSA employees on Flyertalk, I wish them nothing but the best in their search for alternative employment. I have far too much contact with the employees of DHS to have any remaining tolerance or empathy for them, they know what they are a part of.
I wonder if they are doing this right now for Hurricane Dolly? This is ICE -- you can't even blame FEMA for this one.

DHS To Conduct Citizenship Check of Hurricane Evacuees Before Boarding Buses

From May 16, 2008:

BROWNSVILLE - Ending speculation about the fate of the Rio Grande Valley's undocumented immigrants during a hurricane evacuation, U.S. Customs and Border Protection has confirmed it will check the citizenship both of people boarding buses to leave the Valley and at inland traffic checkpoints.

Those determined to be in the country illegally will be taken to detention centers away from the hurricane's path and later processed for deportation.
Oh yeah, concerning the Coast Guard, I have read (don't have time to find the links right now) that many of the officers and enlisted guys are complaining that they can't do search & rescue because Chertoff has them spending way too much time and resources doing law enforcement.

Shame on us for tolerating this garbage from our government.
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Originally Posted by Dovster View Post
I see nothing in the story which would indicate that these people are "goons".

Would you please explain why you believe they are.
If I had a relative who worked for them I'd be sensitive about it too. But, regardless, you make a choice about what you do in life.
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Feds want to slap $10,000 fine on Aviation Dept.

"It's still under investigation. . . . We can't fine anybody if the investigation is not complete," TSA spokesman Elio Montenegro.

Pressed to describe the circumstances that led up to the detention of federal inspectors, he said, "On a regular basis, inspectors check the perimeter of the airport and all checkpoints to make sure we're all following standard operating procedures at O'Hare. Then, we sit down with our local law enforcement partners, go over the results and discuss issues we may have to improve security."





Seems like the TSA should be happy.
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"Inspectors from the U.S. Transportation Security Administration were conducting an undercover assessment of security at Chicago's O'Hare International Airport when they were seized and handcuffed by unarmed officers working for the city's aviation department, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Tuesday."
Isn't the real story that the Chicago police were on the job and caught these guys testing the security? The TSA "undercover" agents were probably embarrassed and one can imagine that there were some words exchanged and thus the handcuffs.
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Old Jul 23, 08, 7:17 am
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And the real, real story is that the TSA wants to fine someone who was upholding the security of the airport, and doing so diligently.

Do we think that the fine is going to encourage them to continue doing that?
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