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cj001f May 23, 2008 11:58 am


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 9769299)
So the TSA trusts the labels when it suits them (i.e. makes their lives easier). Another case of "Do as I say, not as I do."

Shouldn't unknowns be considered hazardous until proven benign?

That would be too difficult to implement, so we just stick with window dressing

Spiff May 23, 2008 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 9769219)
Wow are you ever sadly misinformed.

Feel free to correct me anytime you like. (but do provide some evidence, would you? ;) )

Wally Bird May 23, 2008 12:04 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 9769468)
Feel free to correct me anytime you like. (but do provide some evidence, would you? ;) )

C'mon Spiff, you know all the "evidence" is Super Secret. Well, except for the stuff on youtube.

erictank May 23, 2008 3:51 pm


Originally Posted by ralfp (Post 9769299)
So the TSA trusts the labels when it suits them (i.e. makes their lives easier). Another case of "Do as I say, not as I do."

Shouldn't unknowns be considered hazardous until proven benign?

^ +1!

As long as it only results in inconvenience and extra out-of-pocket expense for the pax, it's okay. If it would take an extra DIME out of TSA's budget for ACTUAL SAFETY PURPOSES, well, I guess that's just too bad. If someone drops a leaky bottle of bleach into a trash can with a bottle of Windex, well, the screeners and passengers better just suck it up and deal with the poisonous fumes. Let's not even get started on someone dumping an actual WEAPON - an explosive or bio-chem bomb, say - into that convenient receptacle...

[Yoda voice]Safety? Heh! Security? Heh! TSA craves not these things![/Yoda voice]

Hope someone manages to nail them to the wall on either their blatant lies and hypocrisy or their violation of hazmat-disposal practices. At this point, I no longer care which.

txrus May 23, 2008 4:22 pm


Originally Posted by erictank (Post 9770649)
If someone drops a leaky bottle of bleach into a trash can with a bottle of Windex, well, the screeners and passengers better just suck it up and deal with the poisonous fumes.

Given that we, just recently, had the FA who set a fire in the on-board lav because he/she was PO'd at having to work that flight, how long do you think it would take for a PO'd screener to do exactly the same thing to get a day off due to a hazmat terminal dump?

blahter May 24, 2008 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by NoClu (Post 9749284)
New Link to Evolution...
http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2008/05/scie...ind-3-1-1.html
Doesn't look like anything new here.

In one spot they say H202 plus Tang = boom. In another a mysterious "organic material" plus H202 plus tang = boom.

Obviously, the correct plan of action is to ban Tang :D

Boraxo May 28, 2008 10:01 pm

Foxnews has jumped on the propaganda bandwagon (from TSA website link):

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356491,00.html

LessO2 May 28, 2008 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 9792575)
Foxnews has jumped on the propaganda bandwagon (from TSA website link):

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356491,00.html

Gee, wonder if Fox "News" got a call from a random source named Blip Mawley.



Next time you're feeling inconvenienced because you can't take a bottle of shampoo or soda pop through security, think again. Those restrictions at the gate are there to ensure that you'll reach your destination safe and sound.
If I don't, I will look at why the TSA spent money on new uniforms, badges and swanky parties and retreats before spending any money on new technology, or even simple x-ray machines.


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