TSA Wants to Know Where I'm Going
#16
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I've used my passport as ID at IND, and quite often the ID checker starts flipping through my passport--and I start objecting. it shouldn't matter to them where else I've been--- I give them the passport with the information page open and the boarding pass right next to it.
#17
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My Dad was engaged in conversation at JFK about a year ago by a TSA agent. The usual, where are you headed today etc. While he was conversing with the agent, the X-ray agent stole his two camrea lenses out of his camera bag. He did not notice until he got to Madrid. Some, not all, tsa folks you have to watch like a hawk.
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I got the question: "What gate are you going to" from the ID/BP checker at BWI one day. My response was "Don't know, will check the screen on the other side of security". He persisted in asking me why I wouldn't know in advance... and I said "because sometimes they change at the last minute, and ALL the Southwest flights left from that concourse, unless the airport has changed things in the last 24 hours since I arrived. - Now are you going to let me through, or are you going to make me go back to the lobby and stand in line again, just to answer your innane question."
The TSA checker was NOT pleased - but he let me through with the comment that he was "just trying to be helpful".
I don't need that kind of help.
The TSA checker was NOT pleased - but he let me through with the comment that he was "just trying to be helpful".
I don't need that kind of help.
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Makes me wonder if some of the TSOs doing the asking are not SPOT-trained at all, but instead are hoping to make the BIG CATCH (tm) by annoying every pax in sight with inane questions which would never give a real terrorist away.
#20
Join Date: Sep 2001
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I learned a couple of years ago to hide my connecting boarding passes when flying out of my home airport (CMH.) I also only use a driver's license, not a passport. Our friends at the TSA will flip through any passport, peruse any documents left in the ticket wallet.
So I extract only the relevant boarding card and use a driver's license. If asked where I'm going, I only state the domestic gateway, never the international destination. I'm not lying; after all, I am going to Newark/Cincinnati/Atlanta/JFK, etc. They just don't need to know the rest.
But maybe next time I'll tell them that my actual destination and purpose of my trip are SSI. "I have good reason for keeping that information secret." After all, that's what they tell us.
So I extract only the relevant boarding card and use a driver's license. If asked where I'm going, I only state the domestic gateway, never the international destination. I'm not lying; after all, I am going to Newark/Cincinnati/Atlanta/JFK, etc. They just don't need to know the rest.
But maybe next time I'll tell them that my actual destination and purpose of my trip are SSI. "I have good reason for keeping that information secret." After all, that's what they tell us.
#21
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I think an improperly trained SPOTer (read: wannabe) could probably do more damage than good. They should advise them that if they are not trained to be a SPOTer that they should not try to SPOT people.
I try not to engage in any conversation, but i do flash a cheesy smile just to placate them.
I try not to engage in any conversation, but i do flash a cheesy smile just to placate them.
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#25
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Not to mention that it can be an annoyance.
Craig
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#27
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I much prefer the SPOT'ters who can make any sort of reasonable conversation, without resorting to artificial topics like something they can read right off my BP. Like the guy at BWI who commented on the birds in his backyard and asked me what sort I hoped to see (having seen a Sibley's guide and my camera during a hand-check of my carry-on), or the guy at CRW who asked how I liked XM and if I'd considered Sirius when he saw my XM radio in a bag check. Heck, they could have just been making real conversation and not been doing SPOT at all--and that, IMHO, is the way SPOT should work.
At IAH a few weeks ago, I was repacking a video camera after going through the x-ray, and a TSO asked me why it wasn't in a specific (widely-used) type of camera bag. So I told him I usually do use one of those, but had to repack because of the STUPID one-bag rule connecting through London.
He then told me about his work with some particular kind of video equipment with the DC police and we had a nice chat for a couple of minutes as I was repacking gear on the floor.
I'm still not sure if he was just a nice guy or practicing his SPOT techniques, but that -is- the way it should work.
#28
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I feel the same way.
At IAH a few weeks ago, I was repacking a video camera after going through the x-ray, and a TSO asked me why it wasn't in a specific (widely-used) type of camera bag. So I told him I usually do use one of those, but had to repack because of the STUPID one-bag rule connecting through London.
He then told me about his work with some particular kind of video equipment with the DC police and we had a nice chat for a couple of minutes as I was repacking gear on the floor.
I'm still not sure if he was just a nice guy or practicing his SPOT techniques, but that -is- the way it should work.
At IAH a few weeks ago, I was repacking a video camera after going through the x-ray, and a TSO asked me why it wasn't in a specific (widely-used) type of camera bag. So I told him I usually do use one of those, but had to repack because of the STUPID one-bag rule connecting through London.
He then told me about his work with some particular kind of video equipment with the DC police and we had a nice chat for a couple of minutes as I was repacking gear on the floor.
I'm still not sure if he was just a nice guy or practicing his SPOT techniques, but that -is- the way it should work.
Remember, guys, not to sound preachy or anything (really!), but most of those nice TSA officers probably hate the stupid rules just as much as we do - but they really can't do much to change the rules, due to all the red tape involved.
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"I'm sorry, sir, but since you alluded to airplane hijacking, we're having you arrested for disorderly conduct."