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Traveller Aug 31, 2006 11:00 pm

I had to remind the screener at the security checkpoint this morning at MCI to put clean gloves on please. He :rolleyes: and complied. LOL.

I am carrying on my 20 in rollerboard now, with no liquids/gels, and it's getting opened every time now. Are TSAs just being dicks in wanting to open it because I am not following someone's "Check all bags" idea?

gre Sep 1, 2006 7:55 am

I asked for fresh gloves at IAD Tuesday morning before a TSA rumaged through my toiletry kit. He rolled his eyes and begrudgingly complied. I suspect he would not have if a supervisor had not been standing right next to him. I also suspect that he took a couple of alcohol swabs from my kit as retaliation.

Bart Sep 1, 2006 8:15 am

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gre Sep 1, 2006 8:39 am


Originally Posted by Bart
The ETD sampling is a requirement.

I mean he took a couple of individually wrapped alcohol swabs (like you swab skin with before injections) out of my kit and told me they were forbidden. Interestingly, my tiny kit is almost empty these days: some contact lense solution, a toothbrush, a disposable razor, 2 individual packages of Alka Seltzer, a few alcohol swabs, a photocopy of my passport, and a couple of RCC passes. There were swabs in 2 of the 3 compartments, but while all compartments were searched, the swabs were only taken from 1.

MKEbound Sep 1, 2006 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by Cholula
Not OK with me. I want to see you walk over and extract a new pair from the box so I'm reasonably sure they're fresh.
Not sure the ones in your pocket have not been used previously. Or what you may have had in your pocket that could have contaminated the gloves.
Nothing personal here...just my take on this and I thank you for the question and concern.

I ALWAYS demand fresh gloves.

I once had a screener who said "I just did on my way over to search your bag" My response "I want to watch you do it" and he did.

Always demand fresh gloves.

lg10 Sep 1, 2006 4:31 pm

no kidding...
 

Originally Posted by flysurfer
Well, thanks to the Great Water Ban courtesy of TSA, our personal hygiene items (aka liquids) in checked luggage will now be searched where we don't see it, so I'm pretty sure that this will be done with gloves that have been in contact with quite some disgusting stuff. I'm not sure how this is supposed to make us (feel) safer, but then again, I'm a bloody foreigner, so what do I know?

I totally agree. Considering that behind-the-scenes video cameras constantly
capture service workers doing things like picking their noses and not washing
their hands when they should...I'm 100% positive that any TSA-checked
bag is full of germs I don't want to be exposed to.

BTW how do you know they even use gloves at all for the checked-bag
inspections?

I have found that glove decorum is not intuitive in most professions. In
science labs, for instance, there are often posters on the walls about how
people must un-glove in the elevator etc. (implying that otherwise, people
are happy to have the gloves protect their own hands, but don't realize
that they are cross-contaminating a lot of other things).

And who can count the number of doctor's office employees who glove and
then open drawers, throw some trash away, whatever...before doing the
procedure.

--LG

Yaatri Sep 1, 2006 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by mikeon
I have a question for you guys. Would you mind if I keep an extra pair of gloves in my pockets and use those if i'm not near a box of gloves? I always keep a pair on me in case the ones i'm using get too dirty or ripped. After every 30 minutes I toss the ones I have on my hand, put on the one's in my pockets, and get another new pair as a backup.

Are your pockets clean?

FliesWay2Much Sep 1, 2006 8:21 pm


I always keep a pair on me in case the ones i'm using get too dirty or ripped.
Sorry, but your criteria for changing gloves don't exactly match up with ours. In this case, what the People say rules. (The only other time this happens in America is on Election Day.)

lianluo Sep 1, 2006 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
Sorry, but your criteria for changing gloves don't exactly match up with ours. In this case, what the People say rules. (The only other time this happens in America is on Election Day.)


Um, I think that's why he asked for your thoughts on the subject.

Bart Sep 2, 2006 5:05 am

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badtrav Sep 2, 2006 11:46 am


Originally Posted by Traveller
I Are TSAs just being dicks in wanting to open it because I am not following someone's "Check all bags" idea?

Best way to get a very quick hand inspection ? Fill bag with dead animals. My wife was flying home from BOS with a set of very fragile tea cups her grandmother had left her. She couldn't find anything to cushion them with so she used an old mink stoll. The kind where all the heads, feet and tails are still attached. When the TSA opened it and about three heads popped up, it was quickly closed and handed back to my wife.

Gargoyle Sep 2, 2006 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by badtrav
When the TSA opened it and about three heads popped up, it was quickly closed and handed back to my wife.

Reminds me of the time my parents were driving back to the US from a summer in Mexico, in the early 1930's. They got a couple pairs of some sort of local leather sandals which are cured or tanned in horse manure. Put those on top of their suitcase, customs didn't lift them to see what was underneath. (that was long before the days of latex gloves!)

I assume that if those sandals are still made, Bart sees (or smells) them coming through SAT.

TierFlyer Sep 2, 2006 12:18 pm

I would be much more likely to ask the fast food worker to use fresh gloves than the TSA guy.

But I don't bother as it's all cleaner than the average house and certainly MUCH cleaner than a hotel room.

Traveller Sep 2, 2006 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by TierFlyer
But I don't bother as it's all cleaner than the average house and certainly MUCH cleaner than a hotel room.

Sorry, I don't know where his gloved hands have been 5 minutes before he's touching my toothbrush. I always ask for clean gloves unless I see him/her putting on a fresh pair right in front of me.

whatsinyourbag Sep 3, 2006 11:42 pm


Originally Posted by PatrickHenry1775
TSA is conducting a search without probable cause or even reasonable individualized suspicion of involvement in criminal activity on my property.

BTW, TSA screeners have told me that they wear gloves only to protect themselves. I have responded that I do not give a rodent's rear end about them, but rather am concerned about my health.

1) Don't need probable cause... Don't even need reasonable suspicion... You want to fly, then you give up some of your rights...

2) Your health, I could really give a s___ less about yours, I am concerned about my health from the filth in your bags...

Flying is a privilege not a right... :D


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