"You've committed a felony" -- bread knives
 

"This is not right"
http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm

Summary: Grandmother inadvertently leaves 5.5" rounded-tip serrated knife in her carry-on. Is told: "You've committed a felony" (lacking mens rea? I hope not); "you're considered a terrorist" (sigh); your name will go on a watchlist.

Another argument for due process in terrorist watchlists?

And even more disturbing:

"They said 'no' and they said it's a national security issue. And I said what about my constitutional rights? And they said 'not at this point ... you don't have any'."

Apparently the consitution can apply to people wanted for multiple homicides and foreign prisoners, and also everywhere else but airports. :td: :mad:

Also, the only organization that can strip you of your rights is a court of law, AFTER due process has been served.

Who the hell do these guys think they are? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Every dog has his day. Eventually, these idiots will be pounding pavement, and not a day too soon. They've brainwashed themselves into thinking that they are saving the country, but what they've done is destroy the values we used to hold.

The thinking seems to be if we destroy the constitution before the bad guys, we win :rolleyes:

We don't need the constitution. It's just a useless, old piece of paper anyways. :rolleyes:

A disgrace
 

The people on the "watchlist" should be the ones wearing the little yellow sewed on TSA badge. They are the real danger to our freedom....not a few fanatics wearing turbans. The terrorists can't defeat us or destroy us. We can only do that to ourselves. And we ARE.

We've allowed our rights to be trampled because of fear. When did we turn into a nation of cowards? When did we turn into France? It's time to take the battle to our enemy instead of little old ladys packing a butter knife by mistake.

The people who harassed this lady should be fired. No common sense. No "judgement." So should their supervisor for allowing morons to work under his/her watch. It's time to remind them who they work for.

At the risk of stirring up a hornet's nest, who are the enemy to whom we should take the battle? How should we take the battle to the enemy, especially if the enemy is here in our country? I suspect several widely varying answers to these questions are forthcoming.

Why isn't Canada as much of a target? Why not Finland? I presume the answer to wrapping up the battles successfully is partly found in the wise words of George Washington.

Did you mean to say that the ones wearing the little yellow sewed on TSA badge should be the people on the "watchlist"?

Although this is a sad story that helps flame the fires of hatred for the TSA, I have to admit that I find it highly suspicious. The lady states that the TSA is going to fine her $500.00 yet they have no paperwork or record of the incident? Kinda hard to collect it using those procedures. Where are the witnesses? A reputable reporter would have crawled through broken glass to get a negative statement about the government. Especially from one of the 37 poor, innocent children. That would have made CNN. The comments from the screener are a little too inflammatory for even the newest hiree. I feel that bits and pieces of the conversation were pieced together with a little exaggeration in order to make good copy. During this exchange, the lady has the presence of mind to question the violation of her constitutional rights, yet does not think to get the screener's name? There needs to be a little more info and some evidence before I take this story seriously. I realize that some on f.t. look for any excuse to blast TSA, but this story is just a little too perfect for that cause. I may be wrong, and more evidence may surface, but I doubt it. The National Enquirer may be able to milk this one.

Have a great day all! :p

Who are you judging as cowards? Surely not the Americans who were involved in the initial Persian Gulf War, or Somalia. Or the Joe's that were active participants in Bosnia and Kosovo. Better yet, the Soldiers, Airmen ,Sailors and Marines who are presently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. They are cowards?

Are you calling the entire country of France cowards? When have you been engaged in any type of scenario where you can judge someones stature in relation to heroism or that of being a coward?

I am eargerly awaiting to learn about your crediatials in relation to any combat experience.

Those who are amongst the "we are all at great risk" paranoids are having their way in many aspects of life in the United States; and the reaction of that crowd, the reaction of those who appeal to that crowd, and the reaction of cowards are often indistinguishable in their actions and in their demands.

In any event, the persons you mention -- persons who have contributed to the call of the nation's leader -- do not the majority make.

I don't think any nation is a nation of cowards, but sometimes the coward's action and the majority's action are indistinguishable. When that rings true, perhaps one can conclude that the majority are not always brave, at least in their actions. That's why the term "sheeple" or "sheople" resonates, for many people are behaving like sheep. ... and then there are the "chickenhawks". :D

GUWonder, I often find myself highly inquisitive to your comments.

With all due respect, in layman terms, you are a card.......

Gotcha. :D

Yes, let's call the grandmother, the rural middle school principal a liar. That's the easiest explanation. :td: