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CameraGuy Aug 22, 2004 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by ScottC
I think some people are complaining about the TSA just for the fun of it.

This is no different from the cop that warns a kid to behave or he'll go to jail.

Children listen to authority figures.

Scott, You would be hard pressed to find a cop who would say that. In fact, most cops hate the fact that parents will tell a child "If you don't stop misbehaving, that Policeman will put you in jail". All that does is promote fear of police officers, something that should not be ingrained into our children.

Also, this is not complaining about the TSA for the sake of it. That screener was out of line. It's the parents responsibility to keep her children in line. Not an Airport Screeners.

I agree that children should be taught to respect authority figures. But, a TSA screener is not an authority figure. They are simply a screener. No spiffy white shirt with chevrons and a cloth badge is going to change that.

TSAMGR Aug 22, 2004 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
Also, this is not complaining about the TSA for the sake of it.


TSAMGR Aug 22, 2004 6:35 pm

Sorry, fell over in laughter.

:D

screenerx Aug 22, 2004 9:23 pm


Scott, You would be hard pressed to find a cop who would say that.
CameraGuy,

Make a trip to any middle school or high school in this country with cops on campus. I'll tell you now that a lot of them feel they are father/mother figures and tell you how to act.

Dovster Aug 22, 2004 11:19 pm


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
That screener was out of line. It's the parents responsibility to keep her children in line. Not an Airport Screeners.

True. It is also a parent's responsibility to make certain that his child is crossing the street safely -- not the local grocery store clerk's.

But if I were to slip up and not see my child stepping off the sidewalk when the light is still red, I would be very grateful to the clerk who grabbed his hand.

In this case, a young boy was hitting his sister. This is not healthy behavior for the boy and definitely not the nicest thing for the sister. Perhaps the parents were nervous newbies and not able to pay attention to their children's behavior. Perhaps they were busy getting screened and did not see it. In any case, the screener stopped the girl from being hit and I think, for that, deserves a ^

CameraGuy Aug 23, 2004 5:54 am


Originally Posted by screenerx
CameraGuy,

Make a trip to any middle school or high school in this country with cops on campus. I'll tell you now that a lot of them feel they are father/mother figures and tell you how to act.

But, they don't tell them that they will be arrested if they misbehave.

I know what the cops at schools do, they try to educate kids on alcohol and drug abuse and attempt to educate kids about the consequences of breaking the law.

That is not the same as a cop telling a 5 year old that he/she willbe arrested for talking back to their mother.

CameraGuy Aug 23, 2004 5:55 am


Originally Posted by Dovster
True. It is also a parent's responsibility to make certain that his child is crossing the street safely -- not the local grocery store clerk's.

But if I were to slip up and not see my child stepping off the sidewalk when the light is still red, I would be very grateful to the clerk who grabbed his hand.

In this case, a young boy was hitting his sister. This is not healthy behavior for the boy and definitely not the nicest thing for the sister. Perhaps the parents were nervous newbies and not able to pay attention to their children's behavior. Perhaps they were busy getting screened and did not see it. In any case, the screener stopped the girl from being hit and I think, for that, deserves a ^

I disagree. A child in imminent danger from being hit by a car is not the same as two teenagers horsing around.

screenerx Aug 23, 2004 8:02 pm


But, they don't tell them that they will be arrested if they misbehave.

I know what the cops at schools do, they try to educate kids on alcohol and drug abuse and attempt to educate kids about the consequences of breaking the law.

That is not the same as a cop telling a 5 year old that he/she willbe arrested for talking back to their mother.

CameraGuy,

I'm 21 and can say that, yes, some officers do threaten to arrest kids and make little comments like this when they make smart ... comments.

I made a smart ... comment to a cop while in high school when he asked a stupid question of me. He got upset and made a comment along the lines "That comments like that get people like me thrown in jail!" Now tell me if thats his job?

CameraGuy Aug 24, 2004 6:00 am

Nope, that is not his job. Nor is the job of the power tripping screener in this case to discipline the teenager.

TSAMGR Aug 24, 2004 7:17 am


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
Nope, that is not his job. Nor is the job of the power tripping screener in this case to discipline the teenager.


Another subject being blown out of proportion so there is something to complain about.

CameraGuy Aug 24, 2004 8:08 am

Nope, just you being ultra defensive about the bad apples in your organization.

screenerx Aug 24, 2004 11:22 am


But, they don't tell them that they will be arrested if they misbehave.

I know what the cops at schools do, they try to educate kids on alcohol and drug abuse and attempt to educate kids about the consequences of breaking the law.

That is not the same as a cop telling a 5 year old that he/she willbe arrested for talking back to their mother.
CameraGuy,

If you honestly believe this, take a few days off and just go to a few middle schools and high schools in your area. Most of these schools in my city have at least 4 to 5 cops on campus just walking around everyday. This doesn't include undercover cops on campus. heck, some elementary schools have cops on campus for this.

So you don't know what cops do at schools and that pretty sad because a lot of parents don't have a clue about cops being on campus everyday.

TSAMGR Aug 24, 2004 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by CameraGuy
Nope, just you being ultra defensive about the bad apples in your organization.

Just defending screeners from attacks and generalizations.

This screener doesn't appear to me to be a bad apple. I would be the first to correct a screener if I felt they were abusing their authority.

Boraxo Aug 24, 2004 5:03 pm

Screener should be commended and given a raise and a promotion.

Misbehaving children should not be tolerated. If the parents cannot or will not control their offspring, then boarding will be denied.

Bravo! ^


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