REALITY CHECK,

Institute the SAME rules regarding box cutters and knives PRIOR to 9/11 and more than likely there is no hijacking. But, they would have found another way to attack the US.

The TSA has done NOTHING to improve Air Travel Security. It is 100,000 Government Employees worth of Window Dressing.

Yiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkes!

The two responses to your post so far were really kind and only pointed out the lack of causality in your analysis.

I'll be crueler and point out that you've got your fraction upside down. I think you want to divide answer 2 by answer 1, not the other way around.

There has been nothing reported to the public. That does not mean any attempts have not been tried.

I'm sure this is no surprise to you, but if your agency continues to cowardly hide behind this arrogant 'need to know' basis for releasing information, your agency will continue to lose credibility with each attempt to hide behind this miserable excuse. If the TSA disgracefully continues in this manner, I sincerely hope Congress will wake up and disenfranchise it.

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"Give me Liberty or give me Death." - Patrick Henry

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Do you really believe that a government agency that deals with security should just release all their info to the public? Think about it for a minute. What would happen if they just gave up all the intel they collected, all their operating procedures, all the why's and how's of the organization. Let's just arm every terrorist in the world, why don't we.

Sorry, but I have failed to see where any intelligence has been used in the screening process so far. I hardly think that the number of pointy objects found should be considered and intelligence leak. Especially when you consider that one airport is selling confiscated items on eBay.

I never said that the number of pointy objects found was an intelligence leak. There is so much more to it than that. The TSA is not just composed of screeners. There are Intelligence Specialists, Criminal Investigators, Law Enforcement Officers, and the list goes on. Eventually the TSA will conduct airline cargo screening, railway security...etc. There are processes and procedures that need to be protected, here.



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Buckle your seatbelts...and you better! Sounds like at some point TSA will be in charge of seatbelt enforcement along with grocery-cart inspection (based on "secure" info that terrorists don't buckle up and load up on junk food just before any terroristic activity.)

Calgon...take me away from the TSA.

When a terminal is evacuated, there better be a @#$% good reason for doing so, and there must be an explanation to all affected - not "it's for your own good." I am not a small child and I do not accept such whitewashing and neither will the rest of the traveling public.



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"Give me Liberty or give me Death." - Patrick Henry

Let's start with your last sentence. Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were supported by the US govt. in the past so I'm sure some of their arms HAVE come from the US. Not anymore though, so let's move on.

I think if the TSA foiled a terrorist act, no matter how indirectly, it would be a press release in 5 minutes. The TSA is not the CIA. I don't see it as much more than an inefficient feel-good scanning group.

I don't think the TSA does much research, analysis, or actual creative planning work. I'd be shocked if the TSA had an employee at arrivals drop-off scanning cars for suspicious activity.

I'd also be shocked if they, for example, had cameras picking up the license plate of every vehicle that enters the airport. And I know the perimeters of these airports are like swiss cheese. Those maniac snipers near Washington DC probably could have brought down a plane a day with some larger fire power fixed up to their vehicle.

Is TSA scouting the fences around the airport. Is there camera coverage of the airport perimeter. I doubt it. But please continue to take away my kids' mini-swiss army knife and search my 86-year-old Dad.

Oh, and how come TSA allows skate boards on airplanes. Split in thirds the long way (easy if pre-scored) they're clubs. What's up with this stupid exception. And they're wielded by athletic young men exclusively.

Where is your reference and or location on Ebay?

Heres the thread http://www.flyertalk.com/milesfr.shtml

Heres the article
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/4822656.htm

rawbert

"We're doing more than hassling non-terrorists for sharp and pointy objects, but we can't tell you what that is, for obvious security reasons, of course."

HA HA HA!!! http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/smile.gif

Thanks for the laugh!

And you wonder why so many FlyerTalkers (and why so many Americans) are laughing at the TSA (and its gullible employees)??

Statements like yours reinforce the growing belief that we made a terrible mistake in November, 2001. http://www.flyertalk.com/travel/fttr...orum/frown.gif

Please remember that mistake on election day. Remember that it was Tom Daschle and his party that forced the TSA down our throats.

Hmmmmm? Now remind me, who signed that legislation into law? Please remind me! Was it...Clinton?