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Are People Still Opting Out at TSA Security Checkpoints?

Are People Still Opting Out at TSA Security Checkpoints?

Old Jun 18, 2020, 11:45 pm
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Are People Still Opting Out at TSA Security Checkpoints?

Are people still opting out at the security checkpoint? USA.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Are people still opting out at the security checkpoint? USA.
I opted out once last summer, and honestly regret doing so because the "massage" I received was extreme.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Are people still opting out at the security checkpoint? USA.
I have stopped opting out since the new patdown process requires TSOs to do six, hard swipes of the genitals with the TSO's palms facing the passenger's body. TSA is now officially a predatory agency in my opinion.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 10:01 am
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I have stopped opting out since the new patdown process requires TSOs to do six, hard swipes of the genitals with the TSO's palms facing the passenger's body. TSA is now officially a predatory agency in my opinion.
This was the essence of my point in post 2. I used to opt out every single time in order demonstrate my opposition to their fancy screening machines, but a single experience with the "hard swipes" was sufficient for me to cave in and go with the flow on subsequent trips. I'm sorry for letting you guys down (e.g. the FT community has a long history of opting out), but the current pat down procedures will make any of you guys feel extremely uncomfortable.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 12:25 pm
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One time was enough for me to stop opting out. I felt violated.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 2:00 pm
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I think there's only been one time when in the PreCheck line when I've not opted out and that was due to my running late.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 7:21 pm
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I'm in Pre-check (and clear). I would never opt out. A few times I was "random", the pat down was "extremely minimal".
I guess opt out and random are different universes.
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Old Jun 19, 2020, 10:40 pm
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Me, too! I'm still PreCheck for 6 years now. I already extended PreCheck for next 5 years. I never had any problem at all. I still go through WTMD.
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Old Jun 21, 2020, 7:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Are people still opting out at the security checkpoint? USA.
Only 100% of the time. And i find that when you take photos of screeners prior to the WTMD they back down very quickly.

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Old Jun 25, 2020, 4:15 pm
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I am also Precheck, but unfortunately, at some airports (mainly MDW), a large percentage of Precheck passengers have often seemed to be selected for the body scanner. I always opted-out until the last time I flew from MDW. Because of my fear of getting COVID-19, I was more concerned about getting germs from the TSA agent during the patdown than I was about the non-ionizing radiation from the body scanner, and the concern also prevented me from taking a principled stand. Unfortunately, the TSO still gave me a brief partial patdown after going through the body scanner, so I kind of felt that I might as well have opted out.
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Old Jun 25, 2020, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by guflyer
I am also Precheck, but unfortunately, at some airports (mainly MDW), a large percentage of Precheck passengers have often seemed to be selected for the body scanner. I always opted-out until the last time I flew from MDW. Because of my fear of getting COVID-19, I was more concerned about getting germs from the TSA agent during the patdown than I was about the non-ionizing radiation from the body scanner, and the concern also prevented me from taking a principled stand. Unfortunately, the TSO still gave me a brief partial patdown after going through the body scanner, so I kind of felt that I might as well have opted out.
Body scanner = WTMD or Whole Body Imager? And you went through the Pre Check line?
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Old Jun 26, 2020, 4:41 pm
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Unfortunately, the randomizer went off on the WTMD, which was why I was directed to the body scanner. At some airports, they are nice and allow this to mean a hand swab or swabbing an electronic device. I still think this is security theater but do not find it intrusive enough to mind this. Unfortunately, at many airports, this means being directed to the body scanner.
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Never opt out. Just be "medically unable to lift your arms above your head".
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I haven't had to opt out for a few years, but I will if the situation arises.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by KDS
I have stopped opting out since the new patdown process requires TSOs to do six, hard swipes of the genitals with the TSO's palms facing the passenger's body. TSA is now officially a predatory agency in my opinion.
That was originally part of the "Resolution Pat Down" procedure.

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