Feb 6, 2020, 10:47 am
Last edit by: rrgg
- NO POLITICS IN THIS THREAD. To discuss the politics of what has happened, please use the separate designated thread.
- Existing NY GE members are not affected until the expiration of their current membership (renewals are blocked)
- Rule applies to:
- Vehicle exports
- Applications and renewals for GE, NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST
- Separate precheck memberships (not connected to GE, NEXUS, SENTRI or FAST) are not affected
- Fees will be refunded, according to CFB officer.
- Letter from DHS website
- DHS statement Feb. 6
- The following is from this article: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/glo...s-affected-ttp
- 86,000 people will be "affected immediately...including those with pending applications and those up for renewal"
- 800,000 people could be affected over five years
- "[T]hose people no longer eligible for TTP who had pending applications will receive refunds"
- Statements from the NY Attorney General
[Updated] Global Entry, Trusted Traveler Programs Reinstated for NY Residents
Feb 5, 2020, 9:45 pm
#16
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How would Canada know a New York license has been flagged or canceled if there’s zero info shared?
New York’s new law apparently doesn’t allow for such a thing.
New York’s new law apparently doesn’t allow for such a thing.
Last edited by TWA884; Feb 6, 2020 at 8:24 am Reason: Merge consecutive posts by the same member; please use the multi-quote function. Thank you.
Feb 5, 2020, 10:14 pm
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Here is an scan of DHS's letter to NY State DMV: https://www.scribd.com/document/4457...-Letter-to-NYS
Feb 5, 2020, 10:20 pm
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DHS Secretary Suspending GE renewals for NY State Residents.
https://abc7ny.com/5907159/
“NEW YORK (WABC) -- Residents of New York are no longer eligible to enroll in or renew Trusted Traveler programs, an official with Donald Trump's administration told Fox News.
In an interview on Wednesday night, acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told Tucker Carlson that applications and renewals for Global Entry and other programs are suspended for all New York residents.
He said the DHS sent a letter to New York on Wednesday and the move is the Trump administration's response to New York's sanctuary law.
The recently enacted Green Light Law enables undocumented immigrants to get driver's licenses and permits in New York.
Wolf said during his interview that New Yorkers can't enroll or re-enroll in the Trusted Traveler programs because the DHS no longer has access to make sure they meet program requirements.
On Tuesday night, Trump blasted NYC during his State of the Union Address for being a sanctuary city.”
“NEW YORK (WABC) -- Residents of New York are no longer eligible to enroll in or renew Trusted Traveler programs, an official with Donald Trump's administration told Fox News.
In an interview on Wednesday night, acting Department of Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told Tucker Carlson that applications and renewals for Global Entry and other programs are suspended for all New York residents.
He said the DHS sent a letter to New York on Wednesday and the move is the Trump administration's response to New York's sanctuary law.
The recently enacted Green Light Law enables undocumented immigrants to get driver's licenses and permits in New York.
Wolf said during his interview that New Yorkers can't enroll or re-enroll in the Trusted Traveler programs because the DHS no longer has access to make sure they meet program requirements.
On Tuesday night, Trump blasted NYC during his State of the Union Address for being a sanctuary city.”
Feb 5, 2020, 10:27 pm
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This will last until the first person sues over it, which is most likely this week. That said, elections do have consequences. Citizens should take them more seriously.
Feb 5, 2020, 10:31 pm
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I agree with the last two sentences, but how is DHS supposed to process these apps if NYS DMV doesn’t share info?
Feb 5, 2020, 11:03 pm
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You might need a "standing" order for those who are accepted, but again...put the order in and have it stand for the length of membership. If the DMV fails to cooperate, then the Feds have grounds to make their lives hell (and if they really have to chase this, it actually would justify the surcharge).
Edit: Also, if the DMV won't comply with the aforementioned court order, they're asking for a lawsuit against them. DHS could send an application rejection when the DMV refuses to cooperate and explicitly cite the state's refusal to cooperate (since now the state is both defying a court order and causing a harm that should grant standing).
That being said, with Nexus it's going to be interesting to see what Canada's reaction to this is in terms of government action.
Feb 5, 2020, 11:19 pm
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Was reading the articles from various news outlets ... still not clear to me if they meant to suspend NY state residents who’re not US citizens or all NY state residents including US citizens. They talked about undocumented immigrates, how would an US citizen with a US passport be undocumented & for doing a background check, why do they need driver’s license should they not be using your passport instead to search thru the FBI database? If an US citizen is living abroad for many years and no longer a resident of any states e.g. no drivers license of any US, what do they use to check?
Last edited by LHSEN; Feb 5, 2020 at 11:45 pm
Feb 6, 2020, 12:05 am
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Feb 6, 2020, 12:42 am
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Feb 6, 2020, 1:00 am
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Feb 6, 2020, 1:05 am
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Via the AP:
Link:
https://www.660citynews.com/2020/02/...r-new-yorkers/
This makes sense to me. First, the government needs to verify the enhanced drivers license and they need to ensure your car is legally yours. That would require DMV database access.
The law, which went into effect in December, allowed people without legal permission to be in the United States to apply for driver’s licenses. It also included a provision prohibiting state DMV officials from providing any of its data to entities that enforce immigration law unless a judge orders them to do so.
This law blocks U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which patrols the U.S.-Canada border in New York and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement from obtaining the vehicle’s owners information.
This law blocks U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which patrols the U.S.-Canada border in New York and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement from obtaining the vehicle’s owners information.
https://www.660citynews.com/2020/02/...r-new-yorkers/
This makes sense to me. First, the government needs to verify the enhanced drivers license and they need to ensure your car is legally yours. That would require DMV database access.
Feb 6, 2020, 1:09 am
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Yeah, I wonder about that too. The EDLs exist solely due to close cooperation between the DMVs and the CBP. If the DMV refuses to share any info or records with the CBP, the EDLs should be the first ones to go.