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U.S. to start collecting DNA from people detained at border

Old Jan 8, 20, 6:39 am
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U.S. to start collecting DNA from people detained at border

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/winds...ined-1.5417120

The U.S. government on Monday launched a pilot program to collect DNA from people in immigration custody and submit it to the FBI, with plans to expand nationwide.

A memo outlining the program published Monday by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said U.S. citizens and permanent residents holding a "green card" who are detained could be subject to DNA testing, as well as asylum seekers and people entering the country without authorization. Refusing to submit DNA could lead to a misdemeanour criminal charge, the document said.
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Old Jan 8, 20, 9:38 am
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According to The New York Times:
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Starting Monday, CBP will collect swabs from people apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol at the Canadian border in or near Detroit, as well as people detained at the official port of entry at Eagle Pass, Texas, across from Piedras Negras, Mexico. CBP said its pilot program will last 90 days. In Detroit, people as young as 14 will be subject to DNA collection.

The memo said agents will not take DNA from people entering the country legally or being held for further screening without being placed into detention.

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U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is currently holding more than 40,000 people in medium- or long-term detention, will designate one of its jails for pilot testing. Both ICE and CBP will eventually expand their data collection nationally, according to the memo.
Still, very troublesome.
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Old Jan 8, 20, 1:06 pm
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If this continues, expands and remains, it will be a matter of time until CBP collects the DNA of some US citizens entering the country legally and yet being held for further screening with or without being placed into detention facilities. Even having prima facie evidence of US citizenship and identity and being free of criminal history/activity may not be a timely shield against such governmental collection of DNA.

Even if this were restricted to detention facilities, what constitutes a detention facility may not even be static over time.
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Old Jan 10, 20, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder View Post
If this continues, expands and remains, it will be a matter of time until CBP collects the DNA of some US citizens entering the country legally and yet being held for further screening with or without being placed into detention facilities. Even having prima facie evidence of US citizenship and identity and being free of criminal history/activity may not be a timely shield against such governmental collection of DNA.

Even if this were restricted to detention facilities, what constitutes a detention facility may not even be static over time.
It will continue, it will remain and it will expand until everyone entering the country is tested for DNA.
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Old Jan 10, 20, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by petaluma1 View Post
It will continue, it will remain and it will expand until everyone entering the country is tested for DNA.
Testing everyone for DNA is quite pointless as a positive result is guaranteed in all cases.
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Old Jan 10, 20, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by ls17031 View Post
Testing everyone for DNA is quite pointless as a positive result is guaranteed in all cases.
Are you sure? Because I can clearly recall several times when my parental guidance units have questions my dna or lack thereof...
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