TSA Reportedly Strip Search a Grandmother
Jun 8, 2019, 8:11 pm
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TSA Reportedly Strip Search a Grandmother
Grandmother sues TSA claiming she was subjected to 'strip search'
TSA must have screening procedures based on some highly placed TSA employees fetish. This woman is reporting that TSA screeners
Of course TSA claims that strip searches don't happen but far too many reports strongly suggest otherwise. The obvious solution is to require video recording of every TSA screeners action while working. Body cams might be a good solution. Missing video equals automatic fault on the part of TSA.
The lawsuit alleges the woman, who had TSA Pre-Check clearance, informed a TSA screener on May 12 she had a metal joint implant and requested to be screened by a body scanner. The suit says after the body scan was completed, she was told she would need to undergo a "pat-down" search, which revealed she was wearing a feminine hygiene product.
requested that the woman expose her genitals in order to inspect the feminine product.
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Jun 9, 2019, 8:12 am
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Another article with more detail. If true either TSA has been completely dishonest about full body searches or TSA has a serious problem with screener supervision. Either way TSA should be required to disclose in detail all screening protocols and install video/audio recording devices at every screening station including TSA'S private screening rooms. Nothing short of full disclosure is acceptable.
Las Vegas grandmother sues TSA after they 'forced her to do a strip search and made her remove a common feminine hygiene product'
Las Vegas grandmother sues TSA after they 'forced her to do a strip search and made her remove a common feminine hygiene product'
Jun 9, 2019, 8:42 am
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It wasn't a 'strip search'.
She voluntarily removed all clothing from the lower part of her body so they could do an enhanced frisk of her resistance.
No word on whether or not TSA confiscated the 'feminine hygiene product'.
On a serious note, it makes me wonder if TSA keeps track of pax who are taken to private rooms for examination. How many times have the two female TSOs taken pax to a private room?
Sound far-fetched? Two female TSOs working together to target and harass pax in private rooms with zero accountability?
Remember, a male and a female TSO paired up to target pax that the male TSO found attractive and wanted to grope.
Standby for the blog post/announcement that this never happened.
She voluntarily removed all clothing from the lower part of her body so they could do an enhanced frisk of her resistance.
No word on whether or not TSA confiscated the 'feminine hygiene product'.
On a serious note, it makes me wonder if TSA keeps track of pax who are taken to private rooms for examination. How many times have the two female TSOs taken pax to a private room?
Sound far-fetched? Two female TSOs working together to target and harass pax in private rooms with zero accountability?
Remember, a male and a female TSO paired up to target pax that the male TSO found attractive and wanted to grope.
Standby for the blog post/announcement that this never happened.
Jun 9, 2019, 9:20 am
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I hope she insists on a jury trial so that TSA is forced to describe details (or blatantly lie) in open court.
There are way too many cases over the years of individuals claiming they were required to remove clothing in private rooms for it to be coincidence.
There are way too many cases over the years of individuals claiming they were required to remove clothing in private rooms for it to be coincidence.
Jun 9, 2019, 9:31 am
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I hope it actually goes to court and the two TSOs are put on the stand.
I really really hope TSA doesn't offer to settle and if they do, she doesn't accept it. This isn't something that can or should be settled with taxpayer dollars.
If there is a settlement, it should be paid for partly with money currently reserved for TSA management bonuses.
I really really hope TSA doesn't offer to settle and if they do, she doesn't accept it. This isn't something that can or should be settled with taxpayer dollars.
If there is a settlement, it should be paid for partly with money currently reserved for TSA management bonuses.
Jun 9, 2019, 10:02 am
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Jun 9, 2019, 11:55 am
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I'm no lawyer, but that filing reads like a collection of arguments from this very board. All of which are reasonable, and all of which I support, but the phrasology and construction doesn't resemble any of the other filings we've seen here. It seems... awkward and amateurish by comparison.
Jun 9, 2019, 12:33 pm
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I'm no lawyer, but that filing reads like a collection of arguments from this very board. All of which are reasonable, and all of which I support, but the phrasology and construction doesn't resemble any of the other filings we've seen here. It seems... awkward and amateurish by comparison.
Jonathan Corbett, Esq. Attorney for Plaintiff (Lead Counsel)
To remind readers, Corbett got through the whole body scanner with concealed items that were not detectable by said scanner and I think he did it more than once.
He's had various suits himself against TSA, but I don't know the outcome of any of them.
Jun 9, 2019, 10:31 pm
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I'm no lawyer, but that filing reads like a collection of arguments from this very board. All of which are reasonable, and all of which I support, but the phrasology and construction doesn't resemble any of the other filings we've seen here. It seems... awkward and amateurish by comparison.
Jun 10, 2019, 3:47 am
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As I said, I agree with the positions espoused in the filing. But the composition of it is not consistent with other filings we've seen linked here. The language is less polished, the assertions are more argumentative and emotionally charged than evidentiary, and it lacks the many citations of legal precedent that seem to fill such filings. It's just... awkward by comparison.
Jun 10, 2019, 3:52 am
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Here's his own blog post about the case.
And here's what TSA tells the press "on background", i.e. they're too cowardly to put it on the record with their name attached:
Here's TSA's 2011 blog post about a similar incident (for some reason archived without its comments), which is the exhibit to the complaint. The Internet Archive preserved it with comments, though. And a few contemporaneous articles about that: Turtle Island, Neogaf, & Simple Justice.
Here's my folder of all filings in the case — Mengert v TSA, No. 4:19-cv-304 (N.D. Okla., filed June 5, 2019) — which I'll keep updated.
Here's his own blog post about the case.
And here's what TSA tells the press "on background", i.e. they're too cowardly to put it on the record with their name attached:
Due to pending litigation, we cannot comment on the specifics of this case. TSA does not conduct strip searches and is committed to ensuring the security of travelers, while treating passengers of all ages with dignity and respect.
On Background:
- Pat-down procedures are used to determine whether prohibited items or other threats to transportation security are concealed on the person. Travelers may be required to undergo a pat-down procedure if the screening technology alarms, as part of unpredictable security measures, for enhanced screening, or as an alternative to other types of screening, such as advanced imaging technology screening.
- Travelers may be required to adjust clothing during the pat-down. The officer will advise of the procedure to help anticipate any actions. Pat-downs require sufficient pressure to ensure detection, and areas may undergo a pat-down more than once for the TSA officer to confirm no threat items are detected.
- Pat-downs are conducted by an officer of the same gender. At any time during the process, passengers may request private screening accompanied by a companion of their choice. A second officer of the same gender will always be present during private screening.
Here's TSA's 2011 blog post about a similar incident (for some reason archived without its comments), which is the exhibit to the complaint. The Internet Archive preserved it with comments, though. And a few contemporaneous articles about that: Turtle Island, Neogaf, & Simple Justice.
Here's my folder of all filings in the case — Mengert v TSA, No. 4:19-cv-304 (N.D. Okla., filed June 5, 2019) — which I'll keep updated.
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Jun 10, 2019, 5:43 am
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Here's his own blog post about the case.
And here's what TSA tells the press "on background", i.e. they're too cowardly to put it on the record with their name attached:
Here's TSA's 2011 blog post about a similar incident (for some reason archived without its comments), which is the exhibit to the complaint. The Internet Archive preserved it with comments, though. And a few contemporaneous articles about that: Turtle Island, Neogaf, & Simple Justice.
Here's my folder of all filings in the case — Mengert v TSA, No. 4:19-cv-304 (N.D. Okla., filed June 5, 2019) — which I'll keep updated.
Here's his own blog post about the case.
And here's what TSA tells the press "on background", i.e. they're too cowardly to put it on the record with their name attached:
Here's TSA's 2011 blog post about a similar incident (for some reason archived without its comments), which is the exhibit to the complaint. The Internet Archive preserved it with comments, though. And a few contemporaneous articles about that: Turtle Island, Neogaf, & Simple Justice.
Here's my folder of all filings in the case — Mengert v TSA, No. 4:19-cv-304 (N.D. Okla., filed June 5, 2019) — which I'll keep updated.
- Travelers may be required to adjust clothing during the pat-down. The officer will advise of the procedure to help anticipate any actions. Pat-downs require sufficient pressure to ensure detection, and areas may undergo a pat-down more than once for the TSA officer to confirm no threat items are detected.
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Jun 10, 2019, 7:10 am
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Here's TSA's 2011 blog post about a similar incident (for some reason archived without its comments), which is the exhibit to the complaint. The Internet Archive preserved it with comments, though. And a few contemporaneous articles about that: Turtle Island, Neogaf, & Simple Justice.
There's also the woman who was required to drop her pants to show her prosthesis and the gentleman who was required to show the TSA where his prosthesis was attached to his body so they could swab it for explosives. The same thing happened to a woman last year. https://fox8.com/2018/08/27/i-team-w...sa-checkpoint/
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