Dianna Ross Violated by NOLA TSA
May 7, 2019, 10:36 am
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May 7, 2019, 11:07 am
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And even if Ms. Ross pulled a DYKWIA, what difference would it make? From the TSO's perspective, the passenger could just be someone who looks like Ms. Ross. (How are you going to authenticate her claim? Ask her to sing the second verse of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"?)
May 7, 2019, 11:44 am
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Oh, there are plenty of other options. For me, the most likely is that, in fact, the TSOs on duty didn't know that the passenger was Diana Ross --- or, in fact, who Diana Ross is. It's been fifty years since the peak of the Motown era, and not every random person knows every great singer from that era.
And even if Ms. Ross pulled a DYKWIA, what difference would it make? From the TSO's perspective, the passenger could just be someone who looks like Ms. Ross. (How are you going to authenticate her claim? Ask her to sing the second verse of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"?)
And even if Ms. Ross pulled a DYKWIA, what difference would it make? From the TSO's perspective, the passenger could just be someone who looks like Ms. Ross. (How are you going to authenticate her claim? Ask her to sing the second verse of "Ain't No Mountain High Enough"?)
Was not Diana Ross the archetype of the pop-star diva?
Judging by the average age of the TSOs I encounter, I'd guess most know those songs so well they could sing along with her.
None of that addresses the issue of idiotic mis-application of resources when purportedly tasked with the very safety of the traveling public against an existential threat. Rather they seem to take the appearance of some weird kind of "equality of suspicion" as they're most important function. As if not profiling suspects means disregarding obvious non-threats.
May 7, 2019, 12:13 pm
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I'm almost positive Ross let them know exactly who she is.
Was not Diana Ross the archetype of the pop-star diva?
Judging by the average age of the TSOs I encounter, I'd guess most know those songs so well they could sing along with her.
None of that addresses the issue of idiotic mis-application of resources when purportedly tasked with the very safety of the traveling public against an existential threat. Rather they seem to take the appearance of some weird kind of "equality of suspicion" as they're most important function. As if not profiling suspects means disregarding obvious non-threats.
Was not Diana Ross the archetype of the pop-star diva?
Judging by the average age of the TSOs I encounter, I'd guess most know those songs so well they could sing along with her.
None of that addresses the issue of idiotic mis-application of resources when purportedly tasked with the very safety of the traveling public against an existential threat. Rather they seem to take the appearance of some weird kind of "equality of suspicion" as they're most important function. As if not profiling suspects means disregarding obvious non-threats.
May 8, 2019, 10:16 am
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The general tenor of the comments in this thread is that a) Diana Ross should be exempted from pre-flight security and b) there isn't really a threat so we should all be exempted.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
May 8, 2019, 12:59 pm
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The general tenor of the comments in this thread is that a) Diana Ross should be exempted from pre-flight security and b) there isn't really a threat so we should all be exempted.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
May 8, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Again, based on risk, I am going to say its pretty much 0% chance they will be carrying WEI
May 8, 2019, 1:11 pm
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The odds that Dianna Ross had WEI secreted in her crotch is also near 0% likely but TSA has issues with reasoning and cognitive burdens.
May 8, 2019, 1:28 pm
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Everyone, regardless of age is subject to security. In Israel, they profile and extra security is usually only for those who fit the profile of individuals who may be problematic. In the US, we are not allowed to profile so TSA gets to waste time checking those they KNOW are okay. It’s a numbers game to make sure no one feels singled out because of who they are, where they are from or where they visited.
The general tenor of the comments in this thread is that a) Diana Ross should be exempted from pre-flight security and b) there isn't really a threat so we should all be exempted.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
As for a) it's absurd to exempt Diana Ross from pre-flight security, just as it's absurd to exempt any celeb, which includes a fair number of bad 'uns, unless profiling were to be explicitly employed. If that were to happen, the outrage from people who aren't pale, male and stale would be palpable.
As for b) there may or may not be a threat currently, but we would likely return to significant threat levels if we stopped all pre-flight security.
Ms Ross should stop throwing her enormous privilege into the faces of the common people.
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May 9, 2019, 9:01 am
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This thread is about Diana Ross feeling violated by a TSA screener who patted her down between her legs.
While some natural deviation from the subject matter is obviously fine, i.e., comparisons and examples of similar complaints/incidents, please let's keep to focus of this thread about this incident (FlyerTalk Rule 5: Stay on Topic).
We have plenty of threads discussing the so-called enhanced screening, children being groped and profiling.
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This thread is about Diana Ross feeling violated by a TSA screener who patted her down between her legs.
While some natural deviation from the subject matter is obviously fine, i.e., comparisons and examples of similar complaints/incidents, please let's keep to focus of this thread about this incident (FlyerTalk Rule 5: Stay on Topic).
We have plenty of threads discussing the so-called enhanced screening, children being groped and profiling.
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May 9, 2019, 12:34 pm
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This popped up in my news feed:
In the New York Post:
In the New York Post:
Diana Ross’ TSA pat-down investigation closed
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TSA leadership at MSY reviewed the CCTV and interviewed the officers involved with Ms. Ross’s screening and determined that protocols for resolving alarms during Advanced Imaging Technology screening were correctly followed. TSA procedures are designed to protect all travelers from persistent threats to the aviation system.”
It appears that Ross eventually had a change of heart regarding the incident, as she later thanked the TSA for protecting the country.
“We are so blessed to have the security that we have at the airports and in our country- this I know And I appreciate it ‘TOTALLY ‘,” she tweeted, adding “Thank you to all those good and loving people that take care of me and us thank you thank you thank you.”
TSA leadership at MSY reviewed the CCTV and interviewed the officers involved with Ms. Ross’s screening and determined that protocols for resolving alarms during Advanced Imaging Technology screening were correctly followed. TSA procedures are designed to protect all travelers from persistent threats to the aviation system.”
It appears that Ross eventually had a change of heart regarding the incident, as she later thanked the TSA for protecting the country.
“We are so blessed to have the security that we have at the airports and in our country- this I know And I appreciate it ‘TOTALLY ‘,” she tweeted, adding “Thank you to all those good and loving people that take care of me and us thank you thank you thank you.”
May 15, 2019, 9:33 am
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I suspect someone let her know that if she thought the NOLA blue-glove hands-on exercise was invasive, she was going to be horrified about the future treatment she'd get if she didn't publicly back off.
May 24, 2019, 6:59 pm
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The only reason, that I am aware of, on why an individual needs to be manually screened, for domestic flights, is when that individual left something in his or her pocket or in person that the unknown items, be it paper/tissue/etc, showed on the screening monitor.
May 25, 2019, 4:36 am
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Does that mean that Chrissie Hynde and Alanis Morissette are groped every time they fly?