Is Secondary Security Screening Unique to TLV flights?
May 3, 2019, 12:55 pm
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Actually, all passengers who had already being searched at TSA checkpoint. That won't be necessary to go through secondary screening at the gates anymore. They should eliminated secondary screening bound for TLV flight. No longer go through secondary screening for TLV flights. Those passengers who already being searched at TSA checkpoints. Everybody had it rights!
ELIMINATE ALL THE SECONDARY SCREENING BOUND FOR TLV FLIGHTS!
ELIMINATE ALL THE SECONDARY SCREENING BOUND FOR TLV FLIGHTS!
. TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger. Champion another cause.
May 3, 2019, 1:37 pm
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This being the debate forum, allow me to reply with . TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.
. TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.<redacted by moderator>
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May 3, 2019, 1:37 pm
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This being the debate forum, allow me to reply with . TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.
Champion another cause.
. TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.Champion another cause.
May 3, 2019, 1:48 pm
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This being the debate forum, allow me to reply with . TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.
. TSA airports are like a hospital robe: protected in front (passenger screening) with a large ugly exposed hole (SIDA access) in the rear. The secondary gate screening mitigates this risk. Israel doesn't trust the minimum-wage airport janitor from Whateveristan not to sneak WEI onto Israel-bound aircraft in cahoots with a passenger.At LAX, other than the predictable security questioning and extra document inspections at the El Al check-in counter, there was no screening other than the standard TSA process. A few connecting passengers who did not check in at the El Al check-in counter at LAX were paged at the gate for the security interrogation.
The entire check-in process took only about half an hour, including the time that we stood in line. We then had a couple of hours to kill, so we went to the T4 Admirals Club. We cleared security at the T4 TSA checkpoint. From the Admirals Club, we walked to TBIT via the T4-TBIT airside connector.
On the way back, the process was similar. It took only about 25 minutes from the time that the taxi dropped us off to get to the gates area. That encompassed the security questioning, checking-in, passing through the security checkpoint - WTMD and carry-on baggage screening - and to clear passport controls (self-serve kiosks).
FWIW, we both travel on US passports, however, I speak fluent Hebrew.
May 3, 2019, 2:24 pm
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In February, we flew on El Al non-stop from LAX to TLV and back.
At LAX, other than the predictable security questioning and extra document inspections at the El Al check-in counter, there was no screening other than the standard TSA process. A few connecting passengers who did not check in at the El Al check-in counter at LAX were paged at the gate for the security interrogation.
The entire check-in process took only about half an hour, including the time that we stood in line. We then had a couple of hours to kill, so we went to the T4 Admirals Club. We cleared security at the T4 TSA checkpoint. From the Admirals Club, we walked to TBIT via the T4-TBIT airside connector.
On the way back, the process was similar. It took only about 25 minutes from the time that the taxi dropped us off to get to the gates area. That encompassed the security questioning, checking-in, passing through the security checkpoint - WTMD and carry-on baggage screening - and to clear passport controls (self-serve kiosks).
FWIW, we both travel on US passports, however, I speak fluent Hebrew.
At LAX, other than the predictable security questioning and extra document inspections at the El Al check-in counter, there was no screening other than the standard TSA process. A few connecting passengers who did not check in at the El Al check-in counter at LAX were paged at the gate for the security interrogation.
The entire check-in process took only about half an hour, including the time that we stood in line. We then had a couple of hours to kill, so we went to the T4 Admirals Club. We cleared security at the T4 TSA checkpoint. From the Admirals Club, we walked to TBIT via the T4-TBIT airside connector.
On the way back, the process was similar. It took only about 25 minutes from the time that the taxi dropped us off to get to the gates area. That encompassed the security questioning, checking-in, passing through the security checkpoint - WTMD and carry-on baggage screening - and to clear passport controls (self-serve kiosks).
FWIW, we both travel on US passports, however, I speak fluent Hebrew.
May 3, 2019, 2:28 pm
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For LY flights from the US, LY just does things a bit differently than US carriers flying to TLV.
May 3, 2019, 2:39 pm
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Before and during boarding - until our group number was called - were seated across from the gate area and had a complete and unobstructed view. There are no hidden places at that part of TBIT (gate 150). We saw no physical screening taking place.
May 3, 2019, 6:45 pm
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LAX may still have a small room somewhere that is used by LY and to where selected passengers are directed to go by the gate agents (if not by others too) for a secondary search that is not TSA-conducted; it would be where the selected are made to wait during and after the cabin baggage+ search until escorted to board the plane. At least that is the process LY has used in the US before, and it’s why many passengers flying LY out of the US May have not seen this kind of thing happen to some of their fellow passengers.
May 3, 2019, 9:11 pm
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LAX may still have a small room somewhere that is used by LY and to where selected passengers are directed to go by the gate agents (if not by others too) for a secondary search that is not TSA-conducted; it would be where the selected are made to wait during and after the cabin baggage+ search until escorted to board the plane. At least that is the process LY has used in the US before, and it’s why many passengers flying LY out of the US May have not seen this kind of thing happen to some of their fellow passengers.
Put another way, be assured that in every airport at which LY operates, they have some arrangement that satisfies them.
May 4, 2019, 12:02 am
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For flights to Israel, LY has measures in place that satisfy the Israeli government for the LY flights to Israel. LY hasn’t been entirely too happy about doing all that they are told to do in the name of security, as LY sort of wanted out of it (in at least part) by wanting the Israeli government do for them what the Israeli government demanded of LY. But maybe that’s a bit like the US airlines’ ambivalence with regards to DHS/TSA and to that which DHS/TSA demands of US airlines outside of the US.
May 4, 2019, 11:53 pm
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Israeli government should listen to those passengers' rights. They already being searched at TSA checkpoint, but not at the gates. Security has already improved. They never had any problem. Those passengers doesn't who need go into secondary screening. They have dropped the gate search. I think it is time to let private contractors go. They doing the gate search for everyday. They had enough already. Too tired of them. They've exhausted. They getting better everyday. I knew passengers who already being searched at main security checkpoints.
May 5, 2019, 3:05 am
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Israeli government should listen to those passengers' rights. They already being searched at TSA checkpoint, but not at the gates. Security has already improved. They never had any problem. Those passengers doesn't who need go into secondary screening. They have dropped the gate search. I think it is time to let private contractors go. They doing the gate search for everyday. They had enough already. Too tired of them. They've exhausted. They getting better everyday. I knew passengers who already being searched at main security checkpoints.
May 5, 2019, 3:26 am
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Just like the US does secondary security screening for flights to the USA from Europe, Israel will and should continue to do secondary screening for their flights. As someone who flies USA-Israel several times a year, I'm happy about it. "Rights" doesn't make sense as an argument, otherwise why not eliminate all security screening to protect people's "rights".
Who here has called for elimination of all security screening? That thing about eliminating all security screenings sounds like a fabricated straw-man to knock over, and the above-quoted post is the only one in this thread which has put up that straw-man argument.
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May 5, 2019, 3:10 pm
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Just like the US does secondary security screening for flights to the USA from Europe, Israel will and should continue to do secondary screening for their flights. As someone who flies USA-Israel several times a year, I'm happy about it. "Rights" doesn't make sense as an argument, otherwise why not eliminate all security screening to protect people's "rights".