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rickg523 Apr 26, 2019 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by yandosan (Post 31040654)
I'm confused. If we now (post 9/11) lock the cockpits with a deadbolt and the passengers know to physically attack any hijackers, why do we need this?
Sounds like a billion dollar boondoggle.

Boondoggle? Wanna bet a former DHS executive is a principal in the company awarded the graft contact?

FliesWay2Much Apr 26, 2019 5:28 pm


Originally Posted by rickg523 (Post 31040669)
Boondoggle? Wanna bet a former DHS executive is a principal in the company awarded the graft contact?

This company, Thruvision, has almost nothing about itself on line, which I find really strange. On their website, they don't even have a tab showing their senior managers, board of directors, etc. The only person of note is the U.S. VP. From what I can tell, he has no government experience. Their last media blurb was to announce they had been award a contract by the TSA to develop the concept of operations (CONOPS) for using their porno-scopes for airport security. This contract just buys paper -- no gadgets. That isn't what the press release says, but I pass that off as just another example of TSA professionalism.

Boggie Dog Apr 26, 2019 6:04 pm

Thruvision Begins US Manufacturing to Meet Growing Demand for Stand-Off People Screening Security Solution


ASHBURN, VA / ACCESSWIRE / September 25, 2018 / Thruvision, a provider of next-generation people screening solutions, today announced that it has begun US manufacturing in Melbourne Florida. All Thruvision Systems intended for sale in the Americas will be manufactured at this location. Thruvision has already completed production of multiple units at the facility for shipment to its US government customers.
​​​​​​​Someone in government is buying!

DragonSoul Apr 29, 2019 12:05 am


Originally Posted by rickg523 (Post 31040624)
I've got to ask who's Derek?
I was thinking more of Dirk Diggler. Or to be specific, the Dirk Diggler :D

Derek Smalls (in the classic "This is Spinal Tap"), airport security scene.

nachtnebel Apr 29, 2019 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 31041117)

A case of Deja Vu all over again. These people certainly have a fixation for peering through our clothing. I wonder why they think this will be accepted any more than the nude scanners were.

FliesWay2Much Apr 29, 2019 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by nachtnebel (Post 31050180)
A case of Deja Vu all over again. These people certainly have a fixation for peering through our clothing. I wonder why they think this will be accepted any more than the nude scanners were.

It will be gladly accepted. The people who could object and force Congress to do something about it are all ExtortionCheck members in good standing. Lots of other people who fly infrequently believe that you can't go too far protecting America from terror from the skies. Members of Congress are exempt from any of this.

Loren Pechtel Apr 29, 2019 10:15 pm


Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much (Post 31036076)
This will result in a field day for the TSA "accidentally" finding drugs.

Yup. It certainly looks to me like TSA is far more focused on drugs than terrorists.


Originally Posted by downinit (Post 31037363)
If it gets me through security faster and does not pose an increased risk of cancer, I am all for it. Not sure why everyone is so hung up about this issue. There will be millions of people passing through; if you are so 'special' that they take notice, consider it a blessing and move on with your life. The level of prudity in the USA is absolutely astounding, but then again, that why we were run out of Europe in the first place. Technically, the TSA already has the right to perform a strip search on any one at any time as it is.

Seconded. I don't care what it sees. However, I do care if this is yet another attempt to skirt the 4th amendment.

Boggie Dog Apr 30, 2019 4:54 am


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 31050987)
Yup. It certainly looks to me like TSA is far more focused on drugs than terrorists.



Seconded. I don't care what it sees. However, I do care if this is yet another attempt to skirt the 4th amendment.

I don't care so much for myself but I object to the premise of the method. There is no reason to electronically strip search everyone who wishes to fly by commercial air, especially children. If we don't push back it only further erodes our rights to be free people.

TWA884 Apr 30, 2019 8:20 am

In the Los Angeles Times:
TSA says an airport full-body scanner must add a filter to protect travelers' privacy


A full-body scanner that the Transportation Security Administration hopes can speed up airport security checkpoints must go back to the drawing board for software to protect the privacy of travelers being scanned.

The scanner, built by British firm Thruvision, was promoted as being able to simultaneously screen multiple airport passengers from a distance of up to 25 feet away. The TSA began trying out the device last year at an Arlington, Va., testing facility before planning to use it on a trial basis at U.S. airports.

But now the federal agency is requiring the scanner to add a “privacy filter” before the TSA can test the scanner “in a live environment,” according to a TSA document.

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chollie Apr 30, 2019 8:52 am

I object to a further senseless violation of my rights, but even more, I object because no matter how revealing this scanner is, I have no doubt there will still be a high rate of 'anomalies' needing invasive hands-on resolution.

I hope I live long enough to see the US adopt the hands-off security practices the rest of the world successfully employs.

Boggie Dog Apr 30, 2019 8:54 am


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 31052296)

Wasn't aware that a federal law was passed requiring privacy filters on whole body scanners. Regardless, good news. Should cool the jets of Thruvision and TSA to roll out these devices.

Boggie Dog Apr 30, 2019 8:57 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 31052402)
I object to a further senseless violation of my rights, but even more, I object because no matter how revealing this scanner is, I have no doubt there will still be a high rate of 'anomalies' needing invasive hands-on resolution.

I hope I live long enough to see the US adopt the hands-off security practices the rest of the world successfully employs.

I saw an article saying a gene had been identified that would allow living to at least 200. Don't think that would be long enough.


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