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Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 30770731)
I presume you didn't have enough time to press the issue without missing your flight, because that's 100% wrong. You could have even pointed TSA to their own article and their own words specifically on nitroglycerin:
https://www.tsa.gov/blog/2014/09/05/...ing-medication I read 260 pills in a 100 pill bottle... kind of hard to follow the exact details here though. I’m sure it didn’t help that the pharmacy decided to be lazy and just put a label on the 100 capsule bottle, it was even still sealed, they receive from the manufacturer but I’m still stuck. |
About 30% of this Checkpoint/Security content is people telling you that TSA isn't allowed to do what it just did to you.
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Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 30771210)
Highlight 2: So you are saying that if your were credentialed at that airport and/or if you knew security personnel, you would have been allowed to take through security an item that the Average Joe could not. Is that correct?
I said quite clearly only that I was afforded an opportunity to make other arrangements for an item that was not permitted past the checkpoint, an opportunity which is often not available and that it was not made available to me because of my job. I will say that I do believe that had I been at an airport where I do have credentials AND been known to a supervisor then the possibility of being able to retrieve and make alternative arrangements for an item not being allowed through the checkpoints once having completed screening would be somewhat more likely than typical. But I would expect mostly that I would not be able to retrieve the item after inspection - that it would have been "confiscated." |
Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 30773843)
Schnikes, where did that come from? No, that is absolutely not correct and I clearly said nothing of the sort.
I said quite clearly only that I was afforded an opportunity to make other arrangements for an item that was not permitted past the checkpoint, an opportunity which is often not available and that it was not made available to me because of my job. I will say that I do believe that had I been at an airport where I do have credentials AND been known to a supervisor then the possibility of being able to retrieve and make alternative arrangements for an item not being allowed through the checkpoints once having completed screening would be somewhat more likely than typical. But I would expect mostly that I would not be able to retrieve the item after inspection - that it would have been "confiscated." |
Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 30773843)
Schnikes, where did that come from? No, that is absolutely not correct and I clearly said nothing of the sort.
I said quite clearly only that I was afforded an opportunity to make other arrangements for an item that was not permitted past the checkpoint, an opportunity which is often not available and that it was not made available to me because of my job. I will say that I do believe that had I been at an airport where I do have credentials AND been known to a supervisor then the possibility of being able to retrieve and make alternative arrangements for an item not being allowed through the checkpoints once having completed screening would be somewhat more likely than typical. But I would expect mostly that I would not be able to retrieve the item after inspection - that it would have been "confiscated." |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 30774063)
My understanding, if a person has an item that can't go in carry-on baggage and isn't WEI TSA is suppose to offer the opportunity to give the item to someone, check it, take it to their car, or as a last resort dispose of the item. Was your item WEI?
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 30774063)
My understanding, if a person has an item that can't go in carry-on baggage and isn't WEI TSA is suppose to offer the opportunity to give the item to someone, check it, take it to their car, or as a last resort dispose of the item. Was your item WEI?
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Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 30772305)
About 30% of this Checkpoint/Security content is people telling you that TSA isn't allowed to do what it just did to you.
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 30774518)
Yep -- My BS Meter is in the red zone on the way to being pegged.
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Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 30774053)
Interesting, because I believe the "official" TSA line has always been that I always have the option of completing screening and being escorted back landside to dispose of an item I don't want confiscated (with the exception of firearms, of course). I have exercised this option a couple times when I had time, simply because I decided I wanted to make sure my item ended up in the garbage and not on ebay. Some airports even installed mailing stations for people to mail items to themselves rather than have them confiscated. Obviously these mailing stations assumed the pax wouldn't know his/her item wasn't allowed until a screener tried to confiscate it.
My reference to credentials was exactly that they did NOT result in "special" treatment - the special treatment of course, only being what TSA is supposed to do in the first place - give an opportunity to make other arrangements for the item. It was Ghiradelli chocolate sauce..... |
Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 30774741)
And that is my point and essentially what I wrote in my first response - TSA does not "take" items (in the sense of a governmental taking/seizing/confiscation) - the passenger chooses to abandon/forfeit/surrender the item to TSA who is supposed to (but is not required to always) offer an opportunity to make other arrangements for the items.
My reference to credentials was exactly that they did NOT result in "special" treatment - the special treatment of course, only being what TSA is supposed to do in the first place - give an opportunity to make other arrangements for the item. It was Ghiradelli chocolate sauce..... ... an opportunity which is often not available I do believe that had I been at an airport where I do have credentials AND been known to a supervisor then the possibility of being able to retrieve and make alternative arrangements for an item not being allowed through the checkpoints once having completed screening would be somewhat more likely than typical |
Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 30774741)
And that is my point and essentially what I wrote in my first response - TSA does not "take" items (in the sense of a governmental taking/seizing/confiscation) - the passenger chooses to abandon/forfeit/surrender the item to TSA who is supposed to (but is not required to always) offer an opportunity to make other arrangements for the items.
My reference to credentials was exactly that they did NOT result in "special" treatment - the special treatment of course, only being what TSA is supposed to do in the first place - give an opportunity to make other arrangements for the item. It was Ghiradelli chocolate sauce..... I think your statement is inconsistent with TSA policy. I believe screeners are always suppose to offer the opportunity to do something with prohibited (None WEI) items. |
I am not TSA, maybe GSOL can better answer when for operational reasons it is not possible for a passenger to retrieve a prohibited items left at the checkpoint for alternative arrangements after screening is completed. But I do know that somewhere on TSAs website FAQ they state prohibited items might not be returned.
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Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 30777933)
I am not TSA, maybe GSOL can better answer when for operational reasons it is not possible for a passenger to retrieve a prohibited items left at the checkpoint for alternative arrangements after screening is completed. But I do know that somewhere on TSAs website FAQ they state prohibited items might not be returned.
1) The screener is holding a personal item s/he has just removed from my bag. Screener takes said item, says it can't go, and tosses it directly in the trash can without giving me the option to complete a particularly rigorous screening and be escorted back landside with my item. 2) The screener confiscated something of mine, I complete screening, leave the checkpoint, and want to come back at a later time to get my item - maybe I called someone from the sterile area who has agreed to come pick up the item. That is not allowed. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 30762272)
I am very surprised that this happened. The SOP for any item which is or is suspected of being contraband is to detain the passenger and the bag for a LEO. Even if OP is a drug-smuggler, the act of tossing the substance deprives law enforcement of the physical evidence it would require to make the case.
As a starting point, have you filed a complaint (online and simple) with TSA. They tend to be highly responsive and the passage of time is not a good thing. |
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