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Old Jul 11, 2018, 12:38 am
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Meanwhile at 8:10pm today at SFO there was no CBP taking forms after collecting bags. The immigration officer at the booth took my GE ticket and I was confused at first thinking it would cause a hassle to walk out once I got my bags.
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Old Jul 11, 2018, 1:16 am
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Well, on a separate note I've had this happen when landing in HKG from Thailand the a couple times in the last few years. They would pull aside any <40's non-Chinese woman for questioning. Pretty clear what they were looking for.
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Old Jul 11, 2018, 1:33 am
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Interesting it was LAX, in general the state of CA does not cooperate with ICE but being an airport I guess this is under Feds control. I suspect it would have made the local news here at SFO.
It isn't up to any local/state authority what happens until passengers are cleared by CBP into the arrivals area. Would likely have made just as much news in SFO as in LAX (i.e. virtually none outside of a thread on FT). This isn't new, and it didn't start in Jan 2017.

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Meanwhile at 8:10pm today at SFO there was no CBP taking forms after collecting bags. The immigration officer at the booth took my GE ticket and I was confused at first thinking it would cause a hassle to walk out once I got my bags.
Not so new.

Airports with Unified Immigration/Customs Screening

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Old Jul 11, 2018, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by nomad420
Interesting it was LAX, in general the state of CA does not cooperate with ICE but being an airport I guess this is under Feds control. I suspect it would have made the local news here at SFO
When you arrive off an international flight, you've entered the CBP Federal Inspection Station because it's an international port of entry. Therefore, until you leave the FIS into the public area, federal law trumps all.
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Old Jul 11, 2018, 1:24 pm
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When you arrive off an international flight, you've entered the CBP Federal Inspection Station because it's an international port of entry. Therefore, until you leave the FIS into the public area, federal law trumps all.
It wasn't CBP according to the OP it was ICE but the same applies as yes indeed it is under Federal jurisdiction. Although I like to stay away from politics here I did like your "federal law Trumps all".... LOL
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Old Jul 12, 2018, 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by nomad420
It wasn't CBP according to the OP it was ICE but the same applies as yes indeed it is under Federal jurisdiction. Although I like to stay away from politics here I did like your "federal law Trumps all".... LOL
It’s most commonly CBP; but sometimes it can also be ICE or even just ICE.
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Old Jul 12, 2018, 8:18 am
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As a CBPO, I have both ordered the staff to have their passengers remained seated so I could board the plane, for one specific person, as well as stood on the jet bridge/gate and screened passports. The screening is done for 1 specific person, or certain types of people.

As for allowing USCs to exit with proof of passport, it happens.
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Old Jul 13, 2018, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by nomad420
It wasn't CBP according to the OP it was ICE but the same applies as yes indeed it is under Federal jurisdiction. Although I like to stay away from politics here I did like your "federal law Trumps all".... LOL
Heh, I wasn't even making a Trump reference, it was pretty much a subconscious thing.
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Old Jul 13, 2018, 12:56 pm
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Related to this incident? https://thepointsguy.com/news/stowaway-london-to-lax/
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Old Jul 13, 2018, 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu
Seems to be the one.

Originally Posted by ThePointsGuy.com
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On Sunday, July 1, an unidentified male traveler from Romania passed through a security checkpoint at London Heathrow Airport (LHR) and successfully boarded United Flight 935 to Los Angeles (LAX), reportedly using a duplicate boarding pass previously issued to another passenger who also still managed to travel on the same flight.

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“On July 1, 2018, a Romanian citizen arrived into Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) from London, England. While conducting a primary inspection of the passenger to determine his admissibility, the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officer noted the subject was not on the flight passenger manifest and was not in possession of a valid non-immigrant visa. Subsequent interviews of the subject concluded that he was not authorized to travel to the United States. The subject was taken into custody by FBI for federal prosecution.”
The flight arrived close to its scheduled time, but some travelers were likely delayed, as CBP reportedly met the plane at the gate and cleared passengers one-by-one. First, US citizens were instructed to deplane, followed by US residents and finally all of the remaining passengers. While the CBP spokesperson didn’t confirm this arrival procedure, it reflects the experience of an individual booked on the flight.

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Old Jul 13, 2018, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by nomad420
It wasn't CBP according to the OP it was ICE but the same applies as yes indeed it is under Federal jurisdiction. Although I like to stay away from politics here I did like your "federal law Trumps all".... LOL
If it were as stated by a TPG reader — and who here really knows if that was entirely an accurate representation of what has happened — then it would increase the chances of ICE being involved at LAX as gate reception for the next day’s LHR-LAX flight reception.
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Old Jul 14, 2018, 8:22 pm
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I've had this happen with CBP a few times. Usually off flights coming from places with high levels of cash transportation on person or looking to attack asylum seekers. I've actually had it happen more in Canada with CBSA. I doubt it was ICE. They often have you show just the front of your passport and let you go if you are a US citizen.
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Old Jul 16, 2018, 10:34 am
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Exclamation Moderator's Note: Topic Drift

Folks,

This thread is about CBP or ICE officers meeting an arriving international flight at the gate, separating US citizens lawful permanent residents from the remaining passengers and clearing them one-by-one.

If you wish to discuss whether similar operations can or do take place with arriving domestic flights or at security checkpoints at airports located within the 100 miles border zone, please do so in the following thread:
Posts have been moved.

Thank you for understanding,

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Old Jul 19, 2018, 7:16 am
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Originally Posted by N1120A
I Usually off flights coming from places with high levels of cash transportation on person or looking to attack asylum seekers.
Attack asylum seekers? How does boarding a plane facilitate an attack on asylum seekers?
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Old Jul 19, 2018, 1:38 pm
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Separating US from non-US leads to some new issues: many non-US can get GE (and pay $100) and should expect some form of expedited entry--the scenario described should make such a foreign national feel "ripped off".
[Initially GE pps had a CBP sticker placed on the back cover of the pp; now (without using a computer), I doubt CBP could tell who is a GE?]
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