2006: war on water. 2018: war on powder
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If TSA is looking for Fentanyl I doubt they will find it. Just tiny amounts of the drug are deadly.
FAQ’s-Fentanyl and Fentanyl-Related Substances]
I honestly don't think TSA screeners are qualified to conduct such searches and cannot be trained to conduct such searches if looking for drugs was part of their approved area of search.
There is something more going on here and TSA is once again leading the charge on Civil Liberty violations.
FAQ’s-Fentanyl and Fentanyl-Related Substances]
I honestly don't think TSA screeners are qualified to conduct such searches and cannot be trained to conduct such searches if looking for drugs was part of their approved area of search.
There is something more going on here and TSA is once again leading the charge on Civil Liberty violations.
and yes, there is more going on here....
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TSO to pax: What's the Cruex powder for
Pax <your answer here>
Pax <your answer here>
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yes to the first and no to the second. The way the "red" team tests are done this may actually end up increasing failure rates....
Not only are they not trained but they are not properly equipped to deal with fentanyl they might stumble across - a TSO that finds it will probably OD on it. Has happened too many times already that local cops have overdosed on it not realizing what it is they have come across during searches.
and yes, there is more going on here....
Not only are they not trained but they are not properly equipped to deal with fentanyl they might stumble across - a TSO that finds it will probably OD on it. Has happened too many times already that local cops have overdosed on it not realizing what it is they have come across during searches.
and yes, there is more going on here....
Well some aspects of this don't sound so bad.
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In this article, it states that "The main security concern is from improvised explosives, but TSA is also concerned about fentanyl or pepper spray in the cabin." But, but but but, TSA is not supposed to be searching for drugs. And pepper spray is in aerosol form and aerosols are strictly forbidden in carry-on bags.
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Yep -- this is the first time that the TSA has been able to contrive a connection between the War on Terror and the War on Drugs. I'll bet they throw out the thermonuclear bath powder in the same checkpoint container as the thermonuclear shampoo and thermonuclear dihydrogen monoxide.
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According to The New York Times, "this is not a ban, powders in amounts greater than 350 milliliters will be subject to extra scrutiny. If screeners can’t be sure they are safe, travelers will be told to discard or check them."
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According to The New York Times, "this is not a ban, powders in amounts greater than 350 milliliters will be subject to extra scrutiny. If screeners can’t be sure they are safe, travelers will be told to discard or check them."
I wouldn’t bet against this TSA war on powders also being used to facilitate the war on drugs too.
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According to The New York Times, "this is not a ban, powders in amounts greater than 350 milliliters will be subject to extra scrutiny. If screeners can’t be sure they are safe, travelers will be told to discard or check them."
Curiously, Australian media are reporting that the driver for this was the failed attempt to bomb an EY plane from SYD-AUH. It failed because they couldn't get their improvised explosive past airline checkin.
So, I guess the key takeaway here is we should just fire all the security agents, and hand the baggage dragons responsibility for bag security?
#25
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I carry a 6 ounce powder bottle all the time, and 95% of the time they pull it and do a chemical test on it, even though 6 oz is under the allowed limits. I just keep it out everytime now as I assume they're going to test. It seems like TSA has no idea about their actual powder policy and what to do with it.
#26
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I carry a 6 ounce powder bottle all the time, and 95% of the time they pull it and do a chemical test on it, even though 6 oz is under the allowed limits. I just keep it out everytime now as I assume they're going to test. It seems like TSA has no idea about their actual powder policy and what to do with it.
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Reminds me of the Bryn Mawr student trying to board a plane who had flour packed inside a condom, used to squeeze during finals as a stress buster.
Tested positive for cocaine and heroin. She did about 20 days in jail. Everyone later wondered how flour tested positive for both substances, and why it didn't rouse suspicion when it did...drug dealers are generally not gonna mix drugs together like that.
Tested positive for cocaine and heroin. She did about 20 days in jail. Everyone later wondered how flour tested positive for both substances, and why it didn't rouse suspicion when it did...drug dealers are generally not gonna mix drugs together like that.
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In this article, it states that "The main security concern is from improvised explosives, but TSA is also concerned about fentanyl or pepper spray in the cabin." But, but but but, TSA is not supposed to be searching for drugs. And pepper spray is in aerosol form and aerosols are strictly forbidden in carry-on bags.
Here is a picture of a lethal human dose of fentanyl. When every passenger and carry on is examined so this cannot get on a plane, how long will security lines be?
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Reminds me of the Bryn Mawr student trying to board a plane who had flour packed inside a condom, used to squeeze during finals as a stress buster.
Tested positive for cocaine and heroin. She did about 20 days in jail. Everyone later wondered how flour tested positive for both substances, and why it didn't rouse suspicion when it did...drug dealers are generally not gonna mix drugs together like that.
Tested positive for cocaine and heroin. She did about 20 days in jail. Everyone later wondered how flour tested positive for both substances, and why it didn't rouse suspicion when it did...drug dealers are generally not gonna mix drugs together like that.