Viper Team Today Rosslyn DC Metro Exit
Apr 23, 2018, 5:56 am
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Apr 23, 2018, 6:13 am
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Wow -- great place to trap people (from the TSA's perspective). Small entrance; only one set of turnstyles; next closest station (Courthouse) nearly a mile away; major hub with tons of victims coming and going during rush hour. Were they harassing and searching people or just standing around looking intimidating?
Apr 23, 2018, 7:37 am
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You mean after someone has had a chance to blow up the train? I wonder how much this exercise in stupidity cost We, The People.
I would have thought VIPR would have learned a valuable lesson after the Savannah debacle.
BTW, I thought VIPR teams were going away.
I would have thought VIPR would have learned a valuable lesson after the Savannah debacle.
BTW, I thought VIPR teams were going away.
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Apr 23, 2018, 8:02 am
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Wow -- great place to trap people (from the TSA's perspective). Small entrance; only one set of turnstyles; next closest station (Courthouse) nearly a mile away; major hub with tons of victims coming and going during rush hour. Were they harassing and searching people or just standing around looking intimidating?
Apr 23, 2018, 8:57 am
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Apr 23, 2018, 9:13 am
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INAL. If a person is exiting mass transportation why would any LEO be allowed to search a person without a warrant, probable cause, or reasonable suspicion?
TSA VIPR teams are made up of FAM's who are federal LEO's. I don't understand the carve out in this case.
TSA VIPR teams are made up of FAM's who are federal LEO's. I don't understand the carve out in this case.
Apr 23, 2018, 9:13 am
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What happens here if one says that they do not want to submit to the search? Normally my understanding is that they can ban someone from riding that day (one could use Uber, Lyft, or a taxi for the remainder of the day). However, here the person has already ridden because he or she is exiting.
If this was before entering the Metro, one could perhaps take the elevator instead as that has a separate entrance, unless they are standing there.
If this was before entering the Metro, one could perhaps take the elevator instead as that has a separate entrance, unless they are standing there.
Apr 23, 2018, 11:49 am
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What happens here if one says that they do not want to submit to the search? Normally my understanding is that they can ban someone from riding that day (one could use Uber, Lyft, or a taxi for the remainder of the day). However, here the person has already ridden because he or she is exiting.
If this was before entering the Metro, one could perhaps take the elevator instead as that has a separate entrance, unless they are standing there.
If this was before entering the Metro, one could perhaps take the elevator instead as that has a separate entrance, unless they are standing there.
Apr 23, 2018, 12:36 pm
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There have been reports of people refusing and being escorted out of the station. In places like NYC and Boston with extensive aubway systems, it’s simple to just walk around the corner to another entrance or down the street to the next station. That’s not possible at Rosslyn. Now that I think about it, you could take the elevator because it’s located on Moore Street and has its own handicapped-accessible turnstyle. Other than that, it’s a mile walk to the next station. .
Apr 23, 2018, 12:39 pm
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Not a first for TSA, they did this to train passengers a few years back. Confuses me as to how TSA thinks acts like this improve safety.
Apr 23, 2018, 12:43 pm
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I'm sure there was a very good SSI reason, though.