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safety record for atr72
Has anyone compiled a record of the crashes dating back to October 31 outside Chicago?
Seems like the history is significant. |
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Why Chicago?
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 29433548)
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Originally Posted by Randyk47
(Post 29438709)
One the passengers killed in the 1994 crash in Indiana was a contractor that was doing so economic analysis for me. As I recall he left behind a wife and six young children. |
The ATR-72's safety record isn't that bad. TransAsia Airways is responsible for a bulk of all ATR-72 crashes (1995, 2002, 2014 and 2015).
Around 600 lives were lost in ATR-42/ATR-72 crashes. |
Their safety record has 100% on my flights.
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I don't reckon there are still ATRs around in the US carrying commercial passengers.
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Originally Posted by redadeco
(Post 29441113)
I don't reckon there are still ATRs around in the US carrying commercial passengers.
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Originally Posted by Randyk47
(Post 29441817)
I was actually surprised to see that they still make ATR72 variants. I thought I remembered that after the 1994 crash there was a finding that at least that model had de-icing and wing design issues and shortly thereafter most of the airlines quickly phased them out. Looks like that outside of the US the company and new versions of the plane are alive and well. I was excited to read that HA is starting inter-Hawaiian ATR service next month though after verification it turns out it will be for cargo only. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 29439128)
Sorry to hear that.
uncomfortable. Consequently I always checked the weather and when wind was a factor, I chose other equipment or other times. On Monday October 31 I checked the conditions which were high wind. I called my office outside Indy and they informed me that wind was treacherous as trees were being blown down. I was in Nashville that weekend set to fly back through indy to Chicago to Newark. I called American and spoke to veronica lopes asking for a reroute through dallas. not possible even with my platinum status. I suggested to her that the weather was excessive and dangerous. She reconfirmed with their resources that all was ok. I told her that in my opinion that this was very bad. I recall that the indy paper had wind speeds over 70 mph, which may have been over the limit of the atr takeoff limit. Had northwest not given me status I would be dead. But to thank them, since the date was trick or treat I sent 50 to 100 lbs of ghiradelli to thank the staff for my great fortune. I became over the years known as the chocolate guy where they read the story of the experience at their Christmas parties. I was very well known and some staff with delta originally from NWA knew me or of me. I was written up in the nwa paper when one year the executives stole the bars of choc. It was nicknamed the great chocolate caper. Had veronica listened to me, things might be different. Don Carty chose after meeting with me on a flight from Calgary to dallas to move the atr's down south where storms were less severe (I do not believe that the real cause was just icing). They eventually sold them. Note that the crashes listed seemed all to be under high wind conditions. There is more detail but I think you have the message. Perhaps more of you should listen to this crazy old man. I called northwest and they granted me gold status over the phone and I then cancelled the aa flight and took my wife back to the grand ol for the afternoon. |
Originally Posted by overdahill
(Post 29448975)
They eventually sold them. Note that the crashes listed seemed all to be under high wind conditions. There is more detail but I think you have the message.
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Originally Posted by overdahill
(Post 29432724)
Has anyone compiled a record of the crashes dating back to October 31 outside Chicago?
Seems like the history is significant. |
Originally Posted by overdahill
(Post 29448975)
I flew perhaps 4 times a week on this plane from Indy to Chicago. I found the planes stability in high winds to be very
uncomfortable. Consequently I always checked the weather and when wind was a factor, I chose other equipment or other times. Had northwest not given me status I would be dead. They eventually sold them. Note that the crashes listed seemed all to be under high wind conditions. There is more detail but I think you have the message. |
I doubt the mode of propulsion makes the ATR 72 aircraft any more prone to accident but would look to operator proficiency (low time pilots).
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