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Old Jul 23, 18, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by cestmoi123 View Post
The "border zone" is 100 miles from either an int'l border or the coast. Tucson and LA are definitely within the border zone.

https://www.aclu.org/other/constitut...le-border-zone
That's what the ACLU says, but in practice, USBP only screens interior-bound traffic from the southern and northern land borders. I'm not talking about CBP or ICE or other agencies.
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Old Jul 23, 18, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
That's what the ACLU says, but in practice, USBP only screens interior-bound traffic from the southern and northern land borders. I'm not talking about CBP or ICE or other agencies.
1. That's not "what the ACLU says", it's what the federal government says. https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...-border-patrol

2. What "land border" would a Greyhound bus from Orlando to Miami be coming from? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rights-n841141
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Old Jul 23, 18, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by cestmoi123 View Post
1. That's not "what the ACLU says", it's what the federal government says. https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...-border-patrol

2. What "land border" would a Greyhound bus from Orlando to Miami be coming from? https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rights-n841141
I'm talking about checkpoints. You're talking about USBP activities. No point to continue here.
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Old Jul 23, 18, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
I'm talking about checkpoints. You're talking about USBP activities. No point to continue here.
I agree, since (a) you never said "checkpoints" anywhere in your discussion, and (b) they're absolutely free (as evidence shows) to "inspect" people regardless of the direction they're going or their proximity to an actual land border.
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Old Jul 23, 18, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
That's what the ACLU says, but in practice, USBP only screens interior-bound traffic from the southern and northern land borders..
In practice USBP in those areas does more than just what you said above.
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Old Jul 23, 18, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu View Post
That's what the ACLU says, but in practice, USBP only screens interior-bound traffic from the southern and northern land borders. I'm not talking about CBP or ICE or other agencies.

What is the difference between CBP and USBP?
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Old Jul 23, 18, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog View Post
What is the difference between CBP and USBP?
Itís a bit less than obvious.

CBP has three main law enforcement divisions, but youíre only likely to see to two of them unless youíve seriously screwed up.

USBP enforces immigration laws at and near the border. Their uniforms are normally green.

CBP Field Operations handles normal entry at airports and designated crossings, issues most non-immigrant visas, etc. Their uniforms are normally blue.

CBP Interdiction has mission overlap with parts of DEA and USCG, blocking drug imports and other smuggling. They wear khaki, but Iíve never run into one of their officers ďin the wild.Ē

Thereís also ICE, HSI, and USCIS, but they arenít part of CBP.
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Originally Posted by mauve View Post
It’s a bit less than obvious.

CBP has three main law enforcement divisions, but you’re only likely to see to two of them unless you’ve seriously screwed up.

USBP enforces immigration laws at and near the border. Their uniforms are normally green.

CBP Field Operations handles normal entry at airports and designated crossings, issues most non-immigrant visas, etc. Their uniforms are normally blue.

CBP Interdiction has mission overlap with parts of DEA and USCG, blocking drug imports and other smuggling. They wear khaki, but I’ve never run into one of their officers “in the wild.”

There’s also ICE, HSI, and USCIS, but they aren’t part of CBP.
USBP should be noted is one of those three LE divisions.

The reason no one runs into Interdiction (technically, it's CBP Air and Marine) is because they're usually in the air or on the water.

Also, it should be noted that HSI is a division of ICE, not a separate agency. (Although the HSI folks wish they were a separate agency.)

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