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Katja Feb 10, 2019 11:11 am


Originally Posted by petaluma1 (Post 30761257)
TSA needs to develop a PreCheck style program for travelers with disabilities. With no disrespect, if you can avoid TSA hands in your genitals just by telling them you can't lean backwards or sideways, then what good is this type of screening?

They have, which was the whole original point of this thread. If you are a wheelchair user and you have PreCheck (the same regular PreCheck that ambulatory passengers can have), they are only supposed to swab your hands and your chair, no manual search.

petaluma1 Feb 10, 2019 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Katja (Post 30761306)
They have, which was the whole original point of this thread. If you are a wheelchair user and you have PreCheck (the same regular PreCheck that ambulatory passengers can have), they are only supposed to swab your hands and your chair, no manual search.

What I am talking about is different. I'm thinking of a program that the disabled can enroll in that will allow them to go through screening without having to suffer the indignity of even just a swab. People with diabetes, implants, any kind of a disability which otherwise would have them undergoing additional screening each and every time they fly would be eligible to participate. Right now people with implants or wearing medical devices get the whole 9 yards every time they fly, whether or not they have precheck. TSA could come up with such a program if they wanted to do so.

Georgia Peach Feb 11, 2019 8:52 pm

How many times does he have to go over the same area? Once should be sufficient, as firmly as he’s touching.

Boggie Dog Feb 11, 2019 9:08 pm

A severely Wounded Warrior who is repeatedly wounded again and again by TSA screeners each time he travels by air. This man is no more a threat than the Secretary of DHS! How can TSA allow thousands of airport workers access without benefit of screening then treat a man who has given so much to his country like he is by TSA? TSA and its employees have no shame!

chollie Feb 12, 2019 1:20 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 30767265)
A severely Wounded Warrior who is repeatedly wounded again and again by TSA screeners each time he travels by air. This man is no more a threat than the Secretary of DHS! How can TSA allow thousands of airport workers access without benefit of screening then treat a man who has given so much to his country like he is by TSA? TSA and its employees have no shame!

They treated him much better than some vets have been treated in the past. The screener clearly did not give him the requisite number of vertical and horizontal 'pats' on the crotch. His screener may very well be a vet himself, given how many vets work for TSA.

He was treated much more respectfully than my wheelchair-using semi-paralyzed veteran sister. I noticed this screener didn't bark at the vet when he was trying to get his hands under the vet's backside. My sister constantly gets barked at because the screeners can't seem to understand that no matter how loudly and slowly they talk (there is nothing wrong with my sister's hearing or brain), she still can't life a paralyzed leg for their convenience. She's had bruises on the backs of her thighs from stiffened fingers jammed under her.

In keeping with the thread topic, I should clarify: my sister has PreCheck. There has never been any difference in the screenings she got before getting PreCheck and the way she is handled since getting PreCheck.

All she got for $85 and a background check is access to a shorter line.

Boggie Dog Feb 12, 2019 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 30770210)
They treated him much better than some vets have been treated in the past. The screener clearly did not give him the requisite number of vertical and horizontal 'pats' on the crotch. His screener may very well be a vet himself, given how many vets work for TSA.

He was treated much more respectfully than my wheelchair-using semi-paralyzed veteran sister. I noticed this screener didn't bark at the vet when he was trying to get his hands under the vet's backside. My sister constantly gets barked at because the screeners can't seem to understand that no matter how loudly and slowly they talk (there is nothing wrong with my sister's hearing or brain), she still can't life a paralyzed leg for their convenience. She's had bruises on the backs of her thighs from stiffened fingers jammed under her.

No one should be treated in the ways that TSA treats disabled passengers.

chollie Feb 12, 2019 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 30770413)
No one should be treated in the ways that TSA treats disabled passengers.

I agree, but this is what it is. The agency has been around long enough - this isn't a new organization getting up to speed, it's a full-blown organization fully aware of what it is doing.

It should not be too much to ask to receive something you've bought and paid for on a consistent basis, but apparently that level of service, respect and consistency is incompatible with security.

Boggie Dog Feb 12, 2019 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 30770517)
I agree, but this is what it is. The agency has been around long enough - this isn't a new organization getting up to speed, it's a full-blown organization fully aware of what it is doing.

It should not be too much to ask to receive something you've bought and paid for on a consistent basis, but apparently that level of service, respect and consistency is incompatible with security.

Perhaps TSA is incompatible with security. :-:

TWA884 Feb 13, 2019 12:08 am

Moderator's Note: Topic Drift
 
Folks,

Please keep in mind that this thread is not about how the TSA generally treats disabled individuales.

The topic of this thread is the how the TSA treats disabled passengers who have PreCheck.

Please get back on topic.

Thanks for understanding,

TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator

gsoltso Feb 13, 2019 11:42 am


Originally Posted by Katja (Post 30761023)
That was a perfectly normal wheelchair passenger screening.

Agreed.

petaluma1 Feb 21, 2019 12:34 pm


TWA884 Feb 21, 2019 2:20 pm

Moderator's Note: Topic Drift
 
Reminder!


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 30772240)
Folks,

Please keep in mind that this thread is not about how the TSA generally treats disabled individuales.

The topic of this thread is the how the TSA treats disabled passengers who have PreCheck.

Please get back on topic.

Thanks for understanding,

TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator


petaluma1 Feb 21, 2019 5:33 pm

Amy Van Dyken-Rouen DOES have pre-check:

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29089204-post1.html


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