TSA Using Passenger Screening Dogs
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/06/2...-lines-at-dia/
The change is a Transportation Security Administration program but DIA officials say they are very supportive of it. It won’t apply to all passengers — only those using the “A” bridge security check point and it will run at different times. The change was tested Friday morning and travelers seemed to be on board. They involved TSA-trained dogs. “If it makes it safer, I’m okay with it,” one traveler said. TSA confirms it is using canines to prescreen passengers and if they pass they may be able to go through an expedited security line. I'm generally pro-dog (presuming a well-trained dog and well-trained handler), but I wonder what the false positive rate is for dogs vs the false positive rate for ETD? I suspect dogs don't alarm on hand lotion, which would be a mark in their favor. I wonder if they alarm on fertilizer? I also have to wonder if these dogs will be cross-trained for drug sniffing and cash sniffing. |
I had mentioned this some time back and again last week:
Originally Posted by GUWonder
TSA's "managed inclusion" can lead to somewhat longer/slower PreCheck screening. Also, TSA can still sometimes shut down PreCheck LLL screening outcomes for passengers even when PreCheck LLL is indicated by the boarding pass scan.
The increased use of dogs/swabs and the use of the voodoo "security" "behavior detection" nonsense is part of the "managed inclusion" related changes to boost usage of PreCheck lines, which are rather underutilized. |
The thread title makes it look as though it's the dogs which are granting the expedited screening !
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 21021101)
The thread title makes it look as though it's the dogs which are granting the expedited screening !
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As with anything TSA does, I'll reserve judgement on it until it's been in place long enough to see it's A) intrusiveness, B) use as a bullying or intimidation tool, C) false-positive rate, and D) effectiveness (i.e. false negative rate).
On its surface, however, I like the idea of using sniffer dogs to check out pax instead of the combination of NoS and endless swabs. Removing that swab monkey from our backs can only be a good thing, because it removes one of the most infuriating methods of retaliation and intentional delay that TSOs have. The truth is, if any ONE item in my carry-on has explosive residue on it, the entire bag will have some residue on it. Swabing more than the outside of the bag is rarely necessary, and swabbing more than the inside of each compartment is never justified. Pulling each item out for an individual swab is nothing more than a giant flip-off from the TSO to the pax. If dogs can be used instead, I say, buy stock in Alpo and let slip the dogs of peace! |
Originally Posted by studentff
(Post 21021067)
I also have to wonder if these dogs will be cross-trained for drug sniffing and cash sniffing.
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If these TSA dogs are as well behaved as the one at Atlanta that bit a lady then I can see this program being another TSA failure.
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Too bad for the dogs that the TSA is presumably in charge of their care.
Not that the program makes much sense anyway. 99.99999% of people have no explosives. Are they going to let all those people have expedited screening because the dog found them clear? |
Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 21022155)
Too bad for the dogs that the TSA is presumably in charge of their care.
Not that the program makes much sense anyway. 99.99999% of people have no explosives. Are they going to let all those people have expedited screening because the dog found them clear?
Originally Posted by in the article
One man tweeted, “Through airport security without taking my shoes off, removing anything from my bag or being scanned!”
A woman tweeted, “Straight through security in two minutes with shoes on and laptops/liquids in bag. Testing new security procedures at Denver. Nice job.” If it's kept quiet and rolled out slowly, without fanfare, maybe the FA unions won't go ape over it the way they did with the knives and bats change. This has potential. Given TSA's abysmal record of human rights and basic inteligence, however, I somehow doubt that it will live up to its potential. |
Stupid. Mercury fulminate, nitroglycerin, TNT, ammonium nitrate, PETN, picrates.. etc....
explosives are extremely diverse and not very smelly. Dogs are not the simple solution. George Carlin was so very right, airport security was implemented in order to give stupid people the illusion of safety. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 21021857)
If these TSA dogs are as well behaved as the one at Atlanta that bit a lady then I can see this program being another TSA failure.
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Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 21021205)
The truth is, if any ONE item in my carry-on has explosive residue on it, the entire bag will have some residue on it. Swabing more than the outside of the bag is rarely necessary, and swabbing more than the inside of each compartment is never justified. Pulling each item out for an individual swab is nothing more than a giant flip-off from the TSO to the pax.
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...Besides Denver, right now the canine project is only being tested at airports in Indianapolis, Honolulu and Tampa. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 21023997)
This is so short sighted
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Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 21022155)
Too bad for the dogs that the TSA is presumably in charge of their care.
Not that the program makes much sense anyway. 99.99999% of people have no explosives. Are they going to let all those people have expedited screening because the dog found them clear? |
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