Not breast milk but baby food
Jul 5, 2017, 9:05 am
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That's a good point. I'm really surprised they don't censor half of the posts people make. It could be that:
1. They rely upon the short-term nature of Twitter and simply know that the problems will go away in just a few hours;
2. They are conditioning the public that all of this is "normal" and that the public should expect to be harassed and have things confiscated because it's about terrorists.
Remember how West, Blogdad Bob and the other <deleted> used to go out of their way to correct somebody who accused the TSA of "confiscating" something? They used to regularly roll out the "voluntarily surrender" line. When was the last time anybody read this rebuke? They no longer state that they don't "confiscate."
1. They rely upon the short-term nature of Twitter and simply know that the problems will go away in just a few hours;
2. They are conditioning the public that all of this is "normal" and that the public should expect to be harassed and have things confiscated because it's about terrorists.
Remember how West, Blogdad Bob and the other <deleted> used to go out of their way to correct somebody who accused the TSA of "confiscating" something? They used to regularly roll out the "voluntarily surrender" line. When was the last time anybody read this rebuke? They no longer state that they don't "confiscate."
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Jul 5, 2017, 6:51 pm
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From the Flyertalk front page: More TSA malfeasance.
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
Front line TSA screeners place the public in danger and should be removed from contact with travelers!
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
"He got extremely close to where I was like bent over because he was leaning into me,” Evans recounted to ABC News. “And he said, ‘The only way I’m going to test these juices and let these juices pass is if you submit to a full body search and we get your luggage, we’ll take your carry-on bags, and we’re going to search every single thing you have with you. Is that what you want?’”
Jul 5, 2017, 9:05 pm
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From the Flyertalk front page: More TSA malfeasance.
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
Front line TSA screeners place the public in danger and should be removed from contact with travelers!
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
Front line TSA screeners place the public in danger and should be removed from contact with travelers!
Jul 6, 2017, 2:53 am
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From the Flyertalk front page: More TSA malfeasance.
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
Front line TSA screeners place the public in danger and should be removed from contact with travelers!
http://www.flyertalk.com/articles/ts...dy-search.html
TSA to Mother of Diabetic Child: Lose the Juice Box or Endure “Full Body Search”
Front line TSA screeners place the public in danger and should be removed from contact with travelers!
Jul 6, 2017, 4:22 am
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It's always fun to read the comments, and see how many people believe that TSA is in the right, and the pax is in the wrong. This is why nothing will change - TSA will continue to step up its rules, and increase its punitive actions against pax.
Jul 6, 2017, 7:08 am
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When we went to Disney last year, my wife carried 3 or 4 juice boxes that were about 6 oz each. She even put them in a quart size bag. My 4 year old at the time only wanted this one particular juice box so we packed some for the trip. Flying out of PIA, the TSA didn't have a problem with the juice. Coming back from MCO was a different story. I didn't hear the entire conversation but she was getting lectured about the juice boxes being too large. To carry them through, she had to get the full body patdown. They didn't go through our bags though.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
Jul 6, 2017, 7:29 am
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When we went to Disney last year, my wife carried 3 or 4 juice boxes that were about 6 oz each. She even put them in a quart size bag. My 4 year old at the time only wanted this one particular juice box so we packed some for the trip. Flying out of PIA, the TSA didn't have a problem with the juice. Coming back from MCO was a different story. I didn't hear the entire conversation but she was getting lectured about the juice boxes being too large. To carry them through, she had to get the full body patdown. They didn't go through our bags though.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
Jul 6, 2017, 7:53 am
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Yet another comment just appeared on @TSA about traveling with baby food:
https://twitter.com/emily0918/status/882934349599047680
https://twitter.com/emily0918/status/882934349599047680
When we went to Disney last year, my wife carried 3 or 4 juice boxes that were about 6 oz each. She even put them in a quart size bag. My 4 year old at the time only wanted this one particular juice box so we packed some for the trip. Flying out of PIA, the TSA didn't have a problem with the juice. Coming back from MCO was a different story. I didn't hear the entire conversation but she was getting lectured about the juice boxes being too large. To carry them through, she had to get the full body patdown. They didn't go through our bags though.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
As a diabetic myself, I realize I could take juice through the checkpoint. It is a good way to quickly raise blood sugar. I don't even try to bring juice because the hassle isn't worth it. Sadly, is the hassle worth it, seems to describe a lot with air travel these days.
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Jul 6, 2017, 8:44 am
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@TSA. Time stamp currently says 2 hours ago.
Jul 6, 2017, 9:08 am
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Many (probably mostt) of them are TSA trolls, not people who fly.
Jul 6, 2017, 9:58 am
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I doubt that most, or even many, are TSA trolls, but I do agree that many are people who don't fly often.
My former next-door neighbors in the US are VERY infrequent flyers - they travel at most once a year for vacation. They are reassured by the countless blue-shirted, badged people they see when they go to the airport, and are convinced that the procedures they must go through to board a plane make them (and everyone else) safer.
Their memories of pre-9/11 airport security are fuzzy, but they are quite sure that 9/11 was somehow an airport security failure (along with intelligence failure, malevolent religion, etc. etc.). It's impossible to get them to believe otherwise.
They are college-educated middle-America right-wingers who otherwise rail against government spending and waste, but they believe anyone who thinks airport security needs a major overhaul is a loon who wants terrorists to attack the US.
I submit that they represent, in many ways, a majority of the voting public when it comes to TSA.
My former next-door neighbors in the US are VERY infrequent flyers - they travel at most once a year for vacation. They are reassured by the countless blue-shirted, badged people they see when they go to the airport, and are convinced that the procedures they must go through to board a plane make them (and everyone else) safer.
Their memories of pre-9/11 airport security are fuzzy, but they are quite sure that 9/11 was somehow an airport security failure (along with intelligence failure, malevolent religion, etc. etc.). It's impossible to get them to believe otherwise.
They are college-educated middle-America right-wingers who otherwise rail against government spending and waste, but they believe anyone who thinks airport security needs a major overhaul is a loon who wants terrorists to attack the US.
I submit that they represent, in many ways, a majority of the voting public when it comes to TSA.
Jul 6, 2017, 11:58 am
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I doubt that most, or even many, are TSA trolls, but I do agree that many are people who don't fly often.
My former next-door neighbors in the US are VERY infrequent flyers - they travel at most once a year for vacation. They are reassured by the countless blue-shirted, badged people they see when they go to the airport, and are convinced that the procedures they must go through to board a plane make them (and everyone else) safer.
Their memories of pre-9/11 airport security are fuzzy, but they are quite sure that 9/11 was somehow an airport security failure (along with intelligence failure, malevolent religion, etc. etc.). It's impossible to get them to believe otherwise.
They are college-educated middle-America right-wingers who otherwise rail against government spending and waste, but they believe anyone who thinks airport security needs a major overhaul is a loon who wants terrorists to attack the US.
I submit that they represent, in many ways, a majority of the voting public when it comes to TSA.
My former next-door neighbors in the US are VERY infrequent flyers - they travel at most once a year for vacation. They are reassured by the countless blue-shirted, badged people they see when they go to the airport, and are convinced that the procedures they must go through to board a plane make them (and everyone else) safer.
Their memories of pre-9/11 airport security are fuzzy, but they are quite sure that 9/11 was somehow an airport security failure (along with intelligence failure, malevolent religion, etc. etc.). It's impossible to get them to believe otherwise.
They are college-educated middle-America right-wingers who otherwise rail against government spending and waste, but they believe anyone who thinks airport security needs a major overhaul is a loon who wants terrorists to attack the US.
I submit that they represent, in many ways, a majority of the voting public when it comes to TSA.
Bummer -- I don't want this to turn into a public Twitter lesson, but I see a post about costomer service that's 1 hour old and the post about "travelers from Hamad" about 3 hours ago with nothing in between. I have it set on "Tweets & Replies" but I don't see anything other than posts from the TSA -- no dialogue with the citizens.
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&...40tsa&src=typd
It shows everything posted to @TSA, not just selected commets.
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Jul 6, 2017, 12:50 pm
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TSA managers have met with Evans in Denver since the April incident, and the agency's Disability Branch confirmed leadership planned "to meet with the office responsible for defining the screening procedures to see what could be done to standardize the procedure nationally for screening medically necessary liquids, in a less invasive manner," according to an email to Denver7.
How exactly do you standardize a procedure on a national level when it can be over-ridden by every single screener's Final Say?
http://www.travelpulse.com/news/impa...sa-threat.html
