TSA begins testing checkpoint CT scanners

Old Jun 16, 17, 9:19 am
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TSA begins testing checkpoint CT scanners

The technology is already used for screening checked luggage, but the cost and larger size of the CT scanners has held back their use for carry-on bags. TSA had expected to begin testing CT scanners for carry-on luggage by the end of 2016.CT scanners create a 3-D image that can be rotated to give screeners a better look. Suspicious bags can be pulled aside and opened by screeners.American Airlines, which is participating in the test, said the technology could let passengers leave laptops, liquids and aerosols in their carry-on bags, speeding up the trip through the airport.The test comes as U.S. officials scramble to deal with potential new threats, including reports that terrorists are developing bombs that can be disguised as laptop batteries.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/0...n-luggage.html

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Such fortunate coincidental timing. TSA planned to start testing the devices in 2016, just when coincidentally new threats emerged.

If the new CT scanners can clear laptops, liquids and aerosols, does anyone really believe we will be allowed to leave those items in our bags?

Because if we are, then the only reason for anyone to pay for the Precheck lottery would be if they wanted to pay $85 to keep their shoes on.
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Old Jun 16, 17, 12:41 pm
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If these scanners are so great for checked baggage, why are so many bags opened by TSA, contents strewn around and bottles/jars opened and then not properly reclosed?

What will prove the CT units are useful at checkpoints is if they result in far, far fewer bag checks.

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Old Jun 16, 17, 12:50 pm
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It will be interesting to see how the rate of false positives with checkpoint CTs compares to the number of false positives generated by the checked bag CTs and by the NoS. If the latter two are anything to go by, there will still be plenty of bag searches.
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Wow, another high-tech medical device that's going to make us all
safe.
Imagine if this much zeal were directed toward preventing flying from becoming the miserable, unorganized experience that it has in America.
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If the puffer machines were foiled by dust and farts, I can't imagine what will trip up the CT scanners.
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If the puffer machines were foiled by dust and farts, I can't imagine what will trip up the CT scanners.
Most likely TSA employees will be the weak link.
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Seems our dollars would be much better spent by investing in medical devices to treat medical problems.
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Old Jun 17, 17, 3:55 pm
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It will be interesting to see how the rate of false positives with checkpoint CTs compares to the number of false positives generated by the checked bag CTs and by the NoS. If the latter two are anything to go by, there will still be plenty of bag searches.
More bag searches = more opportunities to find drugs and large amounts of cash.
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It will be interesting to see how the rate of false positives with checkpoint CTs compares to the number of false positives generated by the checked bag CTs and by the NoS. If the latter two are anything to go by, there will still be plenty of bag searches.
Is there a reason to believe that TSA equipment is suppose to only alarm dangerous items? A system that alarms on just about everything by design, can't really be said to have false positives. A vague system creates a great defense against legal complaints.

And TSA would say "Sign up for precheck if you don't like the scanner."

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Old Jun 18, 17, 2:32 pm
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Is there a reason to believe that TSA equipment is suppose to only alarm dangerous items? A system that alarms on just about everything by design, can't really be said to have false positives. A vague system creates a great defense against legal complaints.

And TSA would say "Sign up for precheck if you don't like the scanner."
??

AFAIK, all xrays will be replaced with CT scanners (more money). There will be no exemption for Precheck.

If anything, if these machines perform as advertised, the value of Precheck will be diminished because all pax will be able to leave their laptops and LGAs in their bags. The only advantage to Precheck will be keeping (some) shoes and outerwear on and possibly a dedicated line.
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The only advantage to Precheck will be keeping (some) shoes and outerwear on and possibly a dedicated line.
And WTMD instead of whole body scanners.
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I just hope that these new machines are thoroughly tested for radiation leaks before deployment in public places at c/ps around the country.
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Yeah, I wouldn't want to be working around them. The reason they have never been suitable is because in medical and baggage screening applications, they are very large because of all the shielding.

Now we've got a super-duper 3-D version conveniently ready to roll out juussssttt when a threat surfaces that requires this kind of technology, and it also conveniently can be safely shielded in a much tinier footprint than ever before.

Besides, we know how well the puffers weren't maintained.
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The only advantage to Precheck will be keeping (some) shoes and outerwear on and possibly a dedicated line.
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And WTMD instead of whole body scanners.
And $85 for the gov't.



Oh, you meant advantages for ​​​​​​​passengers. Never mind.
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Old Jun 19, 17, 11:27 am
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Will somebody please explain to me how these CT scanners are going to be able to determine if a liquid is explosive. Is use of these screeners going to mean that parents will no longer have to either open all their baby foods or face being sexually assaulted by TSA?
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