Electronic devices ban Europe to the US [merged threads]
May 17, 2017, 8:54 pm
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Well BBC posted this three hours ago:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39956968
Seems like the conclusion is no ban but other changes may occur (I can assume we will see more aggressive gate screening of electronics)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-flights.html
Not seen any recent articles with differing messages.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39956968
Seems like the conclusion is no ban but other changes may occur (I can assume we will see more aggressive gate screening of electronics)
Others
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-flights.html
Not seen any recent articles with differing messages.
Particularity this quote:
The official added that the homeland security secretary, John F. Kelly, could impose the measure in the next several days or weeks.
May 17, 2017, 9:44 pm
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No, they do not allow battery-less electronics in the cabin. So if the Europe ban is similar, be prepared to check your camera equipment (or be ready to Fed Ex it home).
May 17, 2017, 10:24 pm
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That NY Times article has a link to an earlier article about a hidden bomb in Mogadishu, which only killed the bomber and did NOT take down the plane
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/m...on-planes.html
And it sounds like it didn't make it thru the scanners, but someone handed it to the bomber after security.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/m...on-planes.html
And it sounds like it didn't make it thru the scanners, but someone handed it to the bomber after security.
May 18, 2017, 4:31 am
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That NY Times article has a link to an earlier article about a hidden bomb in Mogadishu, which only killed the bomber and did NOT take down the plane
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/m...on-planes.html
And it sounds like it didn't make it thru the scanners, but someone handed it to the bomber after security.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/05/m...on-planes.html
And it sounds like it didn't make it thru the scanners, but someone handed it to the bomber after security.
May 18, 2017, 7:09 am
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I was nervous that the media interpretation of the communique from the meeting was too optimistic but this seems to support it;
https://apnews.com/da5f5f84f09b4fc4b02e3409086b0a9b
The key point is this "An official who followed the talks said the ban was “off the table” for now. He spoke on condition of anonymity to release details of the sensitive negotiations.".
https://apnews.com/da5f5f84f09b4fc4b02e3409086b0a9b
The key point is this "An official who followed the talks said the ban was “off the table” for now. He spoke on condition of anonymity to release details of the sensitive negotiations.".
May 18, 2017, 7:18 am
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I was nervous that the media interpretation of the communique from the meeting was too optimistic but this seems to support it;
https://apnews.com/da5f5f84f09b4fc4b02e3409086b0a9b
The key point is this "An official who followed the talks said the ban was “off the table” for now. He spoke on condition of anonymity to release details of the sensitive negotiations.".
https://apnews.com/da5f5f84f09b4fc4b02e3409086b0a9b
The key point is this "An official who followed the talks said the ban was “off the table” for now. He spoke on condition of anonymity to release details of the sensitive negotiations.".
Nonetheless, airlines have said it is merely a matter of time before the ban is put in place.
The initial ban has hit Middle Eastern airlines hardest. Emirates, the Middle East’s largest airline, this month cited the ban as one of the reasons for an 80 percent drop in profits last year. It said the ban had a direct impact on demand for air travel into the U.S. and it faced rising costs from introducing complimentary laptop loans to some passengers.
May 18, 2017, 7:35 am
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And if this is true I don't see many of the transatlantic airlines being able to survive:
The initial ban has hit Middle Eastern airlines hardest. Emirates, the Middle East’s largest airline, this month cited the ban as one of the reasons for an 80 percent drop in profits last year. It said the ban had a direct impact on demand for air travel into the U.S. and it faced rising costs from introducing complimentary laptop loans to some passengers.
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May 18, 2017, 11:32 am
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May 18, 2017, 11:54 am
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The Times is reporting that the ban will be in place by the end of the month: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...haos-002vgzjwv
Author's Twitter comments about the ban and his response to what other outlets are reporting: twitter.com/bopanc/status/865140555222790144
Author's Twitter comments about the ban and his response to what other outlets are reporting: twitter.com/bopanc/status/865140555222790144
Last edited by FL390; May 18, 2017 at 11:55 am Reason: Removed direct link to Twitter as it doesn't appear to display
May 18, 2017, 11:59 am
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Financial Times reporting worldwide ban and not just Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/a5624c3c-...a-6027b8a20f23
US homeland security officials who met European commissioners in Brussels this week said that if Washington does extend its ban on large electronic devices, Europe would not be singled out and restrictions would apply to all flights to the US.
May 18, 2017, 12:16 pm
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Financial Times reporting worldwide ban and not just Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/a5624c3c-...a-6027b8a20f23
May 18, 2017, 12:20 pm
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May 18, 2017, 12:26 pm
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Financial Times reporting worldwide ban and not just Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/a5624c3c-...a-6027b8a20f23
I'm still gobsmacked that US officials haven't been pushed hard on this major inconsistency.
And my guess is the only believable reason is the economic disruption it would wreak on the US. And US based carriers. The next question is whether the US gives a damn about their allies' economies at all.
May 18, 2017, 12:34 pm
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I guess they think the know-how to build laptop bombs can be stopped at the border since no mention of domestic flights.
I'm still gobsmacked that US officials haven't been pushed hard on this major inconsistency.
And my guess is the only believable reason is the economic disruption it would wreak on the US. And US based carriers. The next question is whether the US gives a damn about their allies' economies at all.
I'm still gobsmacked that US officials haven't been pushed hard on this major inconsistency.
And my guess is the only believable reason is the economic disruption it would wreak on the US. And US based carriers. The next question is whether the US gives a damn about their allies' economies at all.
These characters should be focusing on more effective ETD means more than trying to push in place such a ban in for all travel to the US. And it's all the more ridiculous to exclude travel within the US when the means and know-how knows no borders -- well, North Korea's border may be an exception.
May 18, 2017, 12:39 pm
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Financial Times reporting worldwide ban and not just Europe: https://www.ft.com/content/a5624c3c-...a-6027b8a20f23
