Electronic devices ban Europe to the US [merged threads]
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Found it. They thought they were kidding.
Enjoy.
http://www.theonion.com/article/faa-...ssenger-ban-44
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Various news agencies are reporting that the TSA is considering expanding the ban to all flights from Europe to the US.
What about those of us that actually need to work on flights? This seems crazy to me. Is there really such a threat that all electronics will have to go be checked? What about the practice of banning Lithium batteries from the hold? How is this all going to work? AAAARRRGGHHH!!!!
What about those of us that actually need to work on flights? This seems crazy to me. Is there really such a threat that all electronics will have to go be checked? What about the practice of banning Lithium batteries from the hold? How is this all going to work? AAAARRRGGHHH!!!!
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If so-called “leaders” were required to follow the very policies they create for others, we most likely would not see as many implementations of ideas which seem to be ridiculous at best.
This thought is not limited to airport security.
This thought is not limited to airport security.
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One other significant point with this 2016 event, it was an insider job.
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This is my biggest concern. I can live without a device other than my phone with me on board and in the airport (although I would hope that lounges would bring back computers if this happens--for example the DL SCs at NRT used to have lots and lots of apple machines), but I'm concerned about it being stolen from checked luggage or damaged in transit.
A loaner laptop or using a public one while gone isn't a solution. No laptop will have the legacy and other specialized software I use regularly for my job--and need even on leisure trips to keep up with business emails I can't ignore for two weeks. (I'm self-employed, and, unfortunately, some of the work is always with me.)
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This is my concern as well, although I don't need a phone on the plane unless that's the only way to read. I can go back to taking enough books for flights, however.
A loaner laptop or using a public one while gone isn't a solution. No laptop will have the legacy and other specialized software I use regularly for my job--and need even on leisure trips to keep up with business emails I can't ignore for two weeks. (I'm self-employed, and, unfortunately, some of the work is always with me.)
A loaner laptop or using a public one while gone isn't a solution. No laptop will have the legacy and other specialized software I use regularly for my job--and need even on leisure trips to keep up with business emails I can't ignore for two weeks. (I'm self-employed, and, unfortunately, some of the work is always with me.)
I know that restrictions are coming on electronics. I hope that they do a reasonable approach. Not that i would like it, I would tolerate and could probably live with a one phone, one laptop/tablet restriction per/pax restriction. Though as i said earlier I wonder what happens if/when the EU bans the carriage of Li-Ion batteries in the hold of passenger aircraft. That is where things could get real interesting.
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This article states that a decision has yet to be made: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...511-story.html
It seems to contradict [I]The Daily Best/I] article referred to earlier in this thread describing this as already done.
I am curious how long this will be drawn out for before a decision comes about (my preference would be for things to be left the way that they are and for there to be no expansion of any ban).
It seems to contradict [I]The Daily Best/I] article referred to earlier in this thread describing this as already done.
I am curious how long this will be drawn out for before a decision comes about (my preference would be for things to be left the way that they are and for there to be no expansion of any ban).
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This article states that a decision has yet to be made: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...511-story.html
It seems to contradict [I]The Daily Best/I] article referred to earlier in this thread describing this as already done.
I am curious how long this will be drawn out for before a decision comes about (my preference would be for things to be left the way that they are and for there to be no expansion of any ban).
It seems to contradict [I]The Daily Best/I] article referred to earlier in this thread describing this as already done.
I am curious how long this will be drawn out for before a decision comes about (my preference would be for things to be left the way that they are and for there to be no expansion of any ban).
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The US govt will sure be making life difficult for its own employees, diplomats, and soldiers if they impose this.
I know some US diplomatic staff in countries affected by the initial ban. It turns out there is a hard and fast policy that US govt-owned electronics with sensitive data must be carried in person, not put in checked luggage. "Sensitive" extends considerably farther than "classified" in this context -- e.g., a laptop with human resources data, or proprietary information from a regulated firm or contractor bid. It's a low threshold, though it doesn't include all US govt equipment (e.g., if someone takes a blank laptop just to access remote email).
The rule is firm enough that these federal employees were instructed that if they were planning travel with sensitive government equipment, cancel existing reservations on affected flights and rebook connecting routes via Europe, even though that would mean higher fares and not using GSA city-pair contracts where available.
If it becomes essentially impossible to travel internationally with electronics on your person, I'm not sure how the US govt plans to resolve that -- rules for federal employees on protecting devices have been getting tighter, not looser.
I know some US diplomatic staff in countries affected by the initial ban. It turns out there is a hard and fast policy that US govt-owned electronics with sensitive data must be carried in person, not put in checked luggage. "Sensitive" extends considerably farther than "classified" in this context -- e.g., a laptop with human resources data, or proprietary information from a regulated firm or contractor bid. It's a low threshold, though it doesn't include all US govt equipment (e.g., if someone takes a blank laptop just to access remote email).
The rule is firm enough that these federal employees were instructed that if they were planning travel with sensitive government equipment, cancel existing reservations on affected flights and rebook connecting routes via Europe, even though that would mean higher fares and not using GSA city-pair contracts where available.
If it becomes essentially impossible to travel internationally with electronics on your person, I'm not sure how the US govt plans to resolve that -- rules for federal employees on protecting devices have been getting tighter, not looser.