Electronic devices ban Europe to the US [merged threads]
May 14, 2017, 9:02 am
#541
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I saw this over in the BAEC thread on this proposed ban:
I tried to access the article but couldn't register to get past paywall as it didn't recognize any of my valid email accounts. Could be a major cluster when this hits. I am headed to Europe in late June/early July for a family vacation.
Today's Sunday Times reports that laptops will be put into a "padded envelope" at the gate and then into the hold, and returned in the baggage area. They also warn that US sources say up to 1/3 of flights to the US will need to be cancelled temporarily whilst new gate security checks are introduced.
May 14, 2017, 9:29 am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268
(not out of Cairo, but out of Sharm El Sheikh)
May 14, 2017, 9:35 am
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The Sunday Times article claims:
"Security sources said the alert was over manually triggered bombs in hand baggage. If a laptop bomb were hidden in checked-in luggage it would have a remote trigger and this would be spotted by state-of-the-art scanners before being loaded onto the aircraft, the sources added."
I wonder why explosives can't be detected by "state-of-the-art scanners".
"Security sources said the alert was over manually triggered bombs in hand baggage. If a laptop bomb were hidden in checked-in luggage it would have a remote trigger and this would be spotted by state-of-the-art scanners before being loaded onto the aircraft, the sources added."
I wonder why explosives can't be detected by "state-of-the-art scanners".
May 14, 2017, 9:39 am
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The Sunday Times article claims:
"Security sources said the alert was over manually triggered bombs in hand baggage. If a laptop bomb were hidden in checked-in luggage it would have a remote trigger and this would be spotted by state-of-the-art scanners before being loaded onto the aircraft, the sources added."
I wonder why explosives can't be detected by "state-of-the-art scanners".
"Security sources said the alert was over manually triggered bombs in hand baggage. If a laptop bomb were hidden in checked-in luggage it would have a remote trigger and this would be spotted by state-of-the-art scanners before being loaded onto the aircraft, the sources added."
I wonder why explosives can't be detected by "state-of-the-art scanners".
May 14, 2017, 9:46 am
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If I can use my cell phone to control the lights in my house these days, I'm sure any cheap burner cell phone can be used to control all other sorts of devices used for nefarious purposes.
May 14, 2017, 9:46 am
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In its pursuit of this ban, the USG is using a claim about AQAP and combining a large electronic device with a manual, physical-proximate triggering sort of akin to that which the failed shoe-bomber and failed underwear bomber used in passenger cabins.
May 14, 2017, 10:18 am
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FWIW, @ASKTSA has this to say about the electronics ban:
The electronic restrictions only apply to flights originating from outside the U.S. from only 10 airports: http://bit.ly/2n3bmEM
May 14, 2017, 10:22 am
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I think you may be thinking of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268
(not out of Cairo, but out of Sharm El Sheikh)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268
(not out of Cairo, but out of Sharm El Sheikh)
May 14, 2017, 10:29 am
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FWIW, @ASKTSA has this to say about the electronics ban:
May 14, 2017, 10:49 am
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So questions to those who've done ME flights to the US (not UK as different rules) - what did you do to your notebook power supply. Did it get checked in or did you get to keep it on you in carry on luggage - only ask as some of those supply units are harder to find than the notebook itself if you lose one mid trip!
May 14, 2017, 11:36 am
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May 14, 2017, 11:43 am
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If terrorists wanted to disrupt air travel, make people scared, they could blow up bombs at airports. Look at how crowded and jam-packed the security queues are. They could do a lot of damage before sending the IEDs through any scanner.
It'll be interesting to see if flights have to divert during a TATL flight because of lithium battery fires in the cargo hold.
Very costly for airlines, even with the anticipated losses as people such as business travelers cancel flights.
It'll be interesting to see if flights have to divert during a TATL flight because of lithium battery fires in the cargo hold.
Very costly for airlines, even with the anticipated losses as people such as business travelers cancel flights.
May 14, 2017, 11:46 am
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No, it will not be applied in any way that inconveniences Mabel and Clarence Murica.
Inconvenience. Now that's a word they know.
May 14, 2017, 12:03 pm
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The correct way to look for bombs is to look for explosive material, not triggering technology.