petaluma1

The TSA is the Stanford Prison Experiment writ large and the sexual assaults are not about security but about exerting power and control on passengers.

Boggie Dog

Humiliation is a key component of exerting power in such situations. Much of TSA's screening processes revolve around humiliating travelers. I think in many cases TSA screeners are being brainwashed and played like pawns.

WillCAD

I've said as much in the past. Never attribute to malice that which can easily be attributed to stupidity.

I don't believe that all TSOs are intentionally abusive, evil, sexual predators. Some of them most assuredly ARE, but most of them have simply been duped by the false premise that what they're doing is not only okay (because they're from the gubment and they're here to help), but absolutely necessary to prevent another 9/11.

It doesn't help that most TSOs, in my experience, pretty well fit the typical American demographic of a high school graduate with a toddler's understanding of the Bill of Rights, the emotional maturity of a seven-year-old (Nuh-uh!), and the self-control of a hormonal teenager (take that back or I'll punch your lights out!)

TSA screeners may be brainwashed, but not to any greater extent than the average rah-rah-Murican.

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petaluma1

Humiliating - you mean like this?

Scott Schachter

I had one of those a few days ago, random selection. I can tell you it left me nauseous. You walk away feeling violated, like, what just happened here.

petaluma1

TSA lie: “contact with Plaintiff’s genitals, if any at all, was incidental and occurred through the course of a typical security pat-down.” This lie by the TSA is found in this document: http://tinyurl.com/y9ttb62p

#MeTooByTSA

petaluma1

One passenger finally stood up to TSA's patdown:

nachtnebel

^^^Link to source?

petaluma1

https://twitter.com/reallycassandra

sunnyjl

I did the exact same thing as the Cassandra, a number of years ago. Except my Pre-Check was revoked for six months, and I was threatened with an $11K fine for not proceeding with the private screening. I also had to retain a civil rights attorney in case this were to happen again as it threatened my career. I came to this thread just now because I was just sexually assaulted at BDL. My bag was pulled for a check because apparently my baggie of dry oatmeal was threatening. The baggie “alarmed” (who knew oatmeal was explosive?), so I got a pat down. Now I’ve been groped, felt up, and karate chopped in the groin, but this woman literally swiped right up the front. I said loudly, “Are you kidding me??!!”. She stopped momentarily and explained that she had to “check” that area. Had I not been desperate to get out of Hartford, and that hellhole of an airport and get home, I would have called a LEO. Filing a complaint tomorrow first thing. I had to go to the bathroom and cry for a few minutes to get my composure back. I need to retire, and soon. I can’t do this anymore.

chollie

The US is basically at full employment, so it is increasingly obvious that the TSOs handling pax genitals enjoy what they're doing. If they didn't, there are plenty of other jobs available, although none that require that particular skill set.

petaluma1

TSA lie: “contact with Plaintiff’s genitals, if any at all, was incidental and occurred through the course of a typical security pat-down.”

The TSA lie about genital contact is in this court document: tinyurl.com/y9ttb62p

As TSA has said they don't intentionally touch genitals, a police report is in order when yours are probed.

Either genital contact by TSA is deliberate or there are many screeners who enjoy feeling up passengers & take advantage to get their jollies. #MeTooByTSA

petaluma1

Here's an interesting development:


I've been following this woman ever since the assault happened. BTW, I've had the experience of correspondence returned from TSA saying said address doesn't exist.

petaluma1

For some reason, this video has come around again on @TSA and is garnering as much outrage as it first did 10 months ago. That's a good thing. I wonder if the screener is still employed by TSA and, more important, if the supervisor who egged him on, seeming to enjoy both the child's and the mother's discomfort, is still employed.